Question of the Day Data

Here’s What Workers
Have to Say.

We ask our community a question and we listen to the answers. From what workers wish they could change about their jobs to what makes a workplace feel safe. These responses give us a snapshot of what hospitality workers are experiencing and asking for right now. Question of the Day turns those conversations into collective data: a way to see patterns, surface shared experiences, and better understand what workers need to build a different kind of hospitality industry. We ask because your experiences matter and because the people doing the work should help shape what comes next.

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CHAAD

What would you like to see from CHAAD in 2025?

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Scripts for talking to bosses (particularly around scheduling)

sobriety/addiction recovery in hospitality workers

resume/cover letter writing assistance

wage disparity between FOH/BOH wage equity concerns

databse of pay rate/average compensation across companies/venue neighborhoods

Talking about what can work better in smaller restaurants when it comes to unionizing or not as far as collective action. How workers can talk to each other about collective action, how to perform one. how to document etc.

Skill shares!

Therapy resources. Folks who have a grasp on the industry POV

Ask hosp. leaders/owners who try to do the right thing how and why they do them

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Demographics

How old were you when you first started working in hospitality?

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45

14

14

15

18! Almost 20 years ago... 😩

15

14

18

18

15

16 at the food court 🍟

12

16

18

17

15

14

20

23

12 off the books at my dad's place, 16 on the books at a big chain restaurant.

19

22

15

14

15

16

15! I wash the dishwasher at Denny's

18

24, late bloomer

20 technically

26 - acadamia wasn't fulfilling me

16

15

16

27!

15

14

14. Scoop shop. Still the hardest job I've ever had.

14... 26 years and 7 months later...

18 - first job/ freshman year in college

20

15

14 but also helped in my fam's restaurant since 8

15 years old (dishwasher at Ponderosa)

13 at my mom's restaurant

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Future Building

What do you want to see from this industry moving forward?

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Solidarity & love

More equity for workers of color in pay, more cooperative staff structures

Less everyone is replaceable energy

High end restaurants in gentrified areas offering affordable plates to community members

High end restaurants work with mutual aid orgs already present

Owners giving workers more opportunities to invest in the business, like co-ops

Intention/purpose, not just something cool or $$ but doing good serving the community

Abolish current standard tip system

40 hour work weeks and equitable pay!

Abolition of tipping with fair wages. Job security. Benefits. shit that applies to most other jobs.

Normalize bathroom breaks/eating during the day. Mutual respect between guests and staff

more investment in BIPOC and woman owned businesses

Less getting yelled at by white guys for things that don't matter

Progressive community ownership structures

Honest conversations about what work/life balance actually means

Don't cut food costs by underpaying farmers - pay your local farmers as much as you can for their goods!

Proper pay and retirement pay security

Maternity/Paternity leave

How can we support + show solidarity to marginalized workers?

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People with power need to put marginalized coworkers in leadership positions

Giving marginalized coworkers a pathway to upward mobility

Making sure coworkers who don't speak english understand what is being communicated to them

Embodying practices of language of justice in the workplace

Centering those who are not able bodied

Pay for translation. Don't expect bilingual folks to communicate for you

We need to change management. Oftentime they will hire marginalized people into mgmt positions but they don't support them and blame them for failing

What does faux activism look like in hospitality?

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Only speaking up or posting things when they're trending with no internal change

Posting pictures of female staff on international womens day with no women in management

Only public facing gestures

Speaking with your mouth and not your payroll

Putting up BLM signs but treating employees of color like shit

Wearing activist clothing but not doing anything else

Saying you support protestors but calling cops on them when they're on your street and affecting business

Hiring a one off diversity trainer but not employing those principals in everyday life

Deeper activism could look like centering people at the margins while building new hospitality structures and systems and repairing harm form the current system

The whole ace hotel brand

Creating a narrative that being critical of hospitality industry means we don't love it

"Progressive owner" advocating for reform that does nothing to change the fundamental conditions of the workers—> call your senator but balks at a union

Hosting a benefit night but not sending money to charity

Talking about being radical in the press but not acting on it

Diverse hiring without inclusive and supportive policies and work environments

Asking minority staff to put together trainings or educate other staff without compensation

Promoting a social cause for profit or social capital

Putting up rainbow flags while line cooks use terms like faggot and make homophobic jokes

Criticizing development companies until ownership receives a deal they like

Union busting after calling us a collective, family

Setting up a gofund me for employees but only donating $50

Activist owner proclaiming there's nothing wrong with capitalism

Highlighting black and brown employees in appreciation posts but the only ones they have are in porter

A BLM sign but furloughing all BIPOC for winter season

Management posting or talking about something to clean their hands and absolve themselves without making any change

Supporting fight for 15 but not actually paying workers that

Is there room to prioritize people over profits? What does this look like?

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Profit sharing

Livable wages and increase prices if need be.

Worker owned, shared profit models, etc. Unions are great but current structures need to be abolished.

Open books and the accountability that comes with that.

Innovation in biz models. More options than non profit, charity, b corp, or reg business

workers throughthe supply chain cooperating and leveraging power together

It looks like long-term employment, fewer labor costs from high turnover

Investing in employees creates staff who care for guests because you care for them.

Always. Just depends if the owners/managers want to prioritize people over profits.

Yes! Healthcare is a start. Measure sucess in lives changed insted of dollar signs.

Yes, but needs a different model than current system.

Abolish the restaurant and than turn it into a community kitchen for everyone.

Love

Obvie. 100 Many other companies do it, especially in other industries. Social purpose biz

How can the industry better celebrate your identity?

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Abolish the industry or "hospitality" itself

Menstraul products available for those who need them. FOR FREEEEE.

More non-white managers. Your staff may be diverse but everyone above them is white.

Asking for pronouns during onboarding

It can abolish itself as we know it

Fight for amnesty or citizenship for all, give workers control of the means of production.

Getting rid of uniforms/dress codes for staff.

Better access/paid days off for disabilities. More attention to pronouns.

By normalizing gender nuetral pronouns and introductions that include pronouns.

Abolish service.

By shedding dress codes, allowing colored hair and tattoos.

Celebrate immigrant workers who do more and dont make tips.

mental health days, mental health resources, mental health ANYTHING

Believing women

First off, they need to leave the white male patriarchy and acknowledge the culinary contributions from all cultures that have been filtered through a classical french lens.

Also, this idea that we are servants for the people who can afford to dine out.

Hopefullt one day "fine dining" and charging an elevated price doesn't only apply to European/white food!

Inclusive pics highlighting all staff (POC to the front) on ALL well known bar instagrams.

Start treating others as they want to be treated. Ask instead of assume.

Accessible healthcare and transportation for non-English speakers.

What are some cultural norms in the industry that need to go?

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Customer is always right...

Gendered greetings for guests

Chefs are abusive because they're geniuses & if you can't handle it, you can't be in the kitchen.

urgency. It's extremely ableist

the verbal abuse

the lack of respect for peoples' availability

short or no breaks.

That women owned doesn't equate to ethical

getting paid less than minimum wage

Taking on additional roles without appropriate compensation be short staffed

That mindset of oh I went through it so you should too

making people pay for their required uniforms

Paying based on one's current "ability/skill set" but expecting more of employee than agreed

Thinking some positions inherently deserve living wages while percieved "low skill" ones dont

Working longer hours than anyone else is something to boast about

I'm conflicted, I really want unpaid labor to go. But I value a working interview to see if I like the culture and pace of the restaurant

Only getting a couple days of paid vacation a year

"we're a family"

"locker room talk" (sexual harassment) is an expected part of the industry

The panic to always be working on the clock and never just taking a rest when there's nothing going on.

It can't be done right unless you do it fulltime (50-60 hours a week)

Tougher/better worker if you don't take breaks.

Clopening shifts

Target-hiring queers and/or BIPOC to seem inclusive then pay absolute shit

Lack of unions

QUIZZES!!!

Not making enought family meal, how embarrassing

Review sites that can get people fired. The disrespect people get away because of it.

"Time to lean, time to clean."

pastry chefs are always femme presenting

yelling all the goddamn yelling

Chef-auter culture

Veryyy long hours

Tipping to make up for less than minimum wage

Expecting BOH to miraculously find time to make staff meal every day

"Leaving your feelings at the door."

Thinking "dessert/pastry chefs" aren't REAL chefs or don't matter

Working all day with no breaks, harassment from managment

What practices are holding the hospitality industry back from positive change?

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Normalizing abuse from guests, chefs & owners. No stability in working hours & income

Not having set schedules

Breaking momentum (..and trust..) of workers investing in the business changing/evolving

Owners aren't as ethical as they say they are, but try to convince the public otherwise. Performative.

The idea that we have to sacrafice so much for a greater customer experience.

Tipping, silencing folks re:mental health, repression of emotions, inadequate rest &&&

Pay

Lack of income security. No time off. No schedule security

Capitalism

Gatekeeping

Gatekeeping (allow me to slightly expand) It's a team effort, not a display of owner achievments

promoting cis white men.

wage inequality between kitchen staff and service staff

The constant constant need to be busy, not being able to positively reinforce down time

Lack of healthcare and normalization of this fact

Cooking til the very last minute of close. Give kitchen a last call like the bar.

Not acknowledging there's a problem

Tipping system

It needs a whole collapse and restructure.

Employees that expect top-down change but aren't willing to break toxic habits.

Maintaining the same power/pay structures, as long as that remains we wont see real equity

Capitalism

Including employees in making decisions, a top down instead of bottom up mindset

No ability to function if one staff member can't work (guilt trips to get shifts covered?)

The customer is absolutely always right.

What kinds of growth opportunities do you want offered from your work?

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Soft skills for management

Training on behind the scenes business stuff like payroll.

Stipend for continued education

Living hourly wages $20hour

Conflict management training/ industry HR training, FOH skills that link to better service.

Any at all.

Profit sharing. I want more money when my labor earns the restaurant more money.

Genuine conversation about skill building/sharing and how to foster those skills over time.

Managment/leadership training, beverage certification

Ability to move from working service to operations, not permently having to close

steady raise in pay, potiental from management and collaborative voice in the biz

Learning all the stations and not just getting stuck at one.

Money for education

Anti-oppression/racism training.

When you make a mistake how do you expect people to help you?

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Graciously, but with accountability, helpful tips

It's a learning opportunity for me. Seeing where the mistake stems from is important.

I've broken rules and it doesn't help/isn't fair when people excuse it.

It's helpful for me to know why it was a mistake and the solution moving forward.

Being available

Clarity and accountability

feedback/discussion on how to avoid the mistake in the future + when it makes sense again.

Without any condescending attitude because it's always hard to take critisim

To be kind & understanding

Tell me they appreciate me saying so, meeting it with consideration instead of confrontation, giving me space to apologize but also giving me space to make it better.

What would you like in an employee breakroom or bathroom?

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Like a high end gym — showers, towels, lockers, free body care and fem products

Fridge and microwave. WINDOWS.

Somewhere to sit down that isn't a toilet or a milk crate

I want those little phone booth rooms they have in office share spaces so I can cry in peace.

Tampons/Pads

Clean tables and microwaves

Says a lot when you say "dream big" the answers are: a clean table and chairs 😱

Free menstrual products 🙌🏻

Honestly a couch you can take a nap at on your break

Space to stretch, maybe a yoga mat, comfortable chairs and air conditioning in the summer.

Stuff to take a nap/lay down, stuff like foam rollers/self massage stuff, fridge with healthy snacks

Sensory deprivation tank

I know someone working at a cafe that had the budget for employee massages pre-pandi.

The same food and beverages that we sell to patrons

What should we read?

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Down And Out In Paris And London

Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber

Or The Utopia of Rules by Graeber

What does success look like for you outside of more money and bigger things?

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Happy employees

Self care and taking care of my personal health. Spending more time doing what I love.

Time to rest

Having free time

PEACE OF MIND!

Being respected and looked up to

More time spent with my kids and husband.

Feeling fulfilled by the small things rather than seeking the next thrill :)

How can hospitality spaces and workers support 🍉?

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I wish more places would come out & publicly support Palestine

Management offering excused time to attend protests

Simply displaying a kuffiyeh, it's that easy. Raising money on a dish would be cool

Let staff talk about Palestine, why do you want bigoted customers in the restaurant anyway?

Donating food to protests & encampments

What topics should we cover in this training? Or anything else?

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Lunch rights. Time/free food/pay food/discounts at the workplace (food industry)

TONS of industry ppl tell me that their bosses adjust their hours w/o telling them ...

... and I don't think it's super common knowledge that that's always illegal

Laws, resources, and resource options for getting fired / let go

What to do if your employer is on some illegal shit

What do you want us to ask our community? Or what do you want to ask CHAAD? What do you want answers to?

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I wanna know how yall are so consistently so awesome?!?!

What do we do about intense workplace culture

How do we reset after burnout

What topics would you want to discuss or unpack in a hospitality worker town hall?

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How to get people out of the negative mindset. The "I don't deserve fair treatment or fair pay" or "this is just how things are" mindset. How do we shift all that into workers talking with each other and building with each other.

Well known Chicago hospitality groups — which are evil and which are worth it

How there's a lack of resources for us and we deserve more.

How to protect yourself when calling out unfair practices in your workplace

The legalities and rights of the worker so it's a more informed community

Community resources and spaces for workers to share previous experiences safely

What's legal and not when it comes to tips: cc fees, tip out on comps/spills, etc...

Why can't non whites be FOH

Why is management always the worst

Why is Warlord still open

As we move away from tip credit, how FOH wages are going to look moving forward

How Chicago "celebrity chef" culture is poison

Green flags to look for at a new job/interview

How to approach your owners/managers with an issue. Effective communication tools.

BOH getting REAL breaks

How to build a coalition when we all work at dramatically different places

Common labor law violations in hospitality

How to create a website or something along those lines to rate places to work

How to get managers trained to listen to employees about issues and be effective communicators

Educate hourly employees on Chicago Paid Leave changes — big groups are scared shitless about the implications

How can we put pressure on the DOL to process their backlog of claims?

What are you adding to or chopping from the menu this month?

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Chopping: the white men bro culture. Adding: every Black employee gets two clap backs per 4–6 hrs worked.

Chopping: complicit silence on g*notice. Adding: free Palestine.

You find out there is forced labor along the supply chain of a product your restaurant uses. What would you do?

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Contact corporate, ask when they plan on switching. Keep pressuring, if no change — quit.

Try to get that product removed from the restaurant and inevitably see no action from management.

Everyone is lying if they have chocolate on their menu smh.

Talk with owners, make your case for switching or discontinuing, find an alternative.

Management would likely not change anything but offer local substitutes/recommendations.

Talk to the person in charge of ordering and look to find an alternative source. If we have a direct connection with the supplier, make it known why we won't be ordering anymore.

Start looking into alternatives and put together numbers to choose new products.

If it isn't corporate-mandated, switch without alerting higher ups.

If hospitality had its own reporting system, what would you want from it?

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What are restaurants really doing with surcharges and additional charges?

Legal counseling, tips on how to start organizing your workplace.

A place to effectively communicate food safety/health code violations 🤐

A portal with access to benefits, resources, and workers' rights, etc.

I want to show them our tip pooling breakdown and determine its legality.

This should always be transparent regardless. Tips are an arrangement between customers and workers only.

Legal counseling!! It's so SO hard to get advice about labor law violations.

& it would be helpful if those reports could more directly get into the hands of consumers!

What do you want to know about labor unions?

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How do you start one?

There's any number of unions you can join, and way more help than you realize...

How do you protect yourself and your coworkers while forming one?

The IWW is badass!

Is there one I should/can be in right now??

Can I help start a union somewhere I used to work but don't work there anymore?

How does it benefit/affect undocumented?

Labor unions for service workers in southern/right-to-work/at-will states????

I know a percentage of employees needs to agree to unionize. But what if FOH is in agreement but BOH isn't? Is there a way for FOH to unionize without the support of BOH? I know it throws a wrench in solidarity but if efforts have been made to work together and BOH is not on board, what can FOH do?

If you could redesign the hospitality industry, what would be your first change?

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Eliminate tipping system + garner equality/solidarity amongst FOH and BOH

Eliminating tips, tipped wages, and ensuring all employees get a thriving wage/salary.

Salaries with benefits plus the ability to collect commission somehow

Really only one thing to change: higher wages and secondarily get rid of tips

Bars/Restos as community third spaces for problem solving, solidarity, mutual aid

Eliminate the tipped min wage, share tips FOH & BOH, clear steps for base wage increases

Then affordable, accessible childcare that addresses our 24/7 scheduling needs

And large group health benefits including psychological and gender-affirming care

Work/life balance, mental health support, not encouraging substance abuse

Livable wages for all, set schedules, benefits package

86 all the -isms: racism, ageism, ableism, sexism

Clopens should not be the norm

Normalize kindly telling rude ppl to check their egos and pay people better — no tips needed

No one would be paid below $20/hr. Every non-management role would split tips, regardless of F/BOH!

Set schedules or sent with enough notice, no clopen, proper breaks and staff meals.

Higher hourly and salary, mandatory days off/paid sick days, great health insurance

EVERYONE GETS FREE THERAPY! When your life works, your work works.

Normalizing kicking out egotistical chefs out of leadership positions

Treat hospitality like any other job? Corporate life standards, production labor at CEO rates

Full benefits package 100% on the business, no toxicity, better work culture, get rid of the males

How can our industry better support caregivers? Or how does our industry make it hard for caregivers/parents?

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Have restorative justice circles for caregivers to talk through their experiences together!

Co-funding child care

Set scheduling!

Our industry needs serious change, they don't even support the employees they have.

Offer flexible hours and a set schedule

Paid childcare, maternity/paternity leave, flexible schedules

Schedules are often released a day or 2 before the work week starts.

We're also expected to accommodate any schedule change without notice.

Offer PTO, healthcare, and make it ok to call out when needed

What is a benefit you would like offered at a job?

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Health insurance and PTO

Retirement

PTO for hourly employees.

Therapy

Cell phone stipend, seriously how is that not a thing yet

Transportation stipend/reimbursement

But also just some decent fucking health insurance

Mental health stipend / reimbursement for therapy, gym, equipment, etc.

All of them. Just like any office job, we're owed that

Recently got PTO for the first time in my life and everyone should have it. Life changing

Healthcare 🥴

Collective bargaining

Health insurance and PTO

Schedule flexibility!

401k

PTO!

Health/dental care without a $8000 deductible, work shoes stipend, parking, sick days, vacation days, a 401k.

PTO that isn't just our measly min wage

Health insurance

Free premium health insurance

What do you wish managers did better?

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Genuinely listen & give thoughtful responses. Even if it isn't what I want to hear.

Communicate. Too many people are driven by ego and little petty games.

Praise

De-escalate problematic patrons

Empower/trust their staff

Actually take action on feedback and concerns from employees.

Work and not sit around talking in meetings all the time. Communicate.

Address issues with employees before it's too late to correct something

Not be passive aggressive

Took the time to be accountable in a way that isn't shame-y

Recognize when they're literally standing in the way of service (...usually at the service bar!)

How would you like your employer to support your mental health?

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Respect my time off. Believe us, the workers. Don't foster an environment of policing.

If I say I need a day off for my mental health, I need it like I need a day with the flu. It matters.

Provide an opportunity to rest and recuperation DURING busy shifts.

Prioritize the safety and comfort of employees over rude or disrespectful guests.

Letting people call out for bad mental health days.

Get the days off I need — just bc I have a disability doesn't mean I can't do my job.

The support would make it easier to do my job BETTER.

Important to point out that under ADA, businesses are legally obligated to make reasonable accommodations for disabilities — I would think a few days off would be considered reasonable. ADA most certainly applies to hospo and it's rarely acknowledged or employed. This includes disabilities like substance use issues. We did a whole chat on it in the Healthy Pour Symposium last year.

"If a disability is not obvious to an employer, they can ask for medical documentation from a healthcare provider to confirm the need for an accommodation." Individuals who solely are "regarded as" having a disability but do not have a disability are not qualified to receive reasonable accommodations. Sticky but important to know. Def brings up important issues of access (can someone afford a doctor/specialist for documentation?), but hopefully this is helpful for people.

This is also a very helpful place to start researching accommodations! https://askjan.org

Offer resources to find therapists in network/or affordable ones.

By sticking to their word, give tasks with clear expectations, and by not being hypocrites.

Just listen.

Basic communication, reasonable and clear expectations of the role.

The best thing they can do is create an environment that is pleasurable to be in.

I got fired from Local Foods because they didn't want to accommodate me after my kidneys were bleeding in December 2022. I submitted a charge through the ADA... And the EEOC hasn't gotten back to me and this happened in December of last year. Still pending. ADA my whole ass. Disabilities are not taken seriously period. Caused me to lose my health insurance. This system is a joke.

Actually ask how I'm doing like a normal-ass person.

By apologizing. So many managers are scared that being incorrect undermines authority.

I want my employer to understand that *nothing* has a greater impact on mental health than whether or not your material needs are being met — paying people BETTER than a living wage is worth a thousand times more than any mental health seminar or pizza party or (unpaid) mental health day or whatever.

By paying me more.

Proactive, sincere & transparent communication re: workplace accommodations & support.

Believing me when I say I need a mental health day.

By being thankful in a genuine and specific way. Recognizing individual merits and contributions.

Giving non-managerial employees greater agency, we're pros but we're never asked for input on policy.

EEOC often takes 6+ months to get back, but will almost always before the 12-month filing deadline for cases!! (Sucks but want ppl to have this info so they know what to expect, at least here in Chicagoland.)

Treat me like a human, not a resource! And pay more.

I shouldn't have to give a reason for a sick day, which includes mental health.

Offering paid time off, and not making me feel guilty when I take it.

THIS — I was literally wrongfully fired b/c I told my manager a specific communication they had w/ me was harmful and provided them some solution ideas to the issue, and they FREAKED OUT like in this "idk what I did wrong, how am I supposed to give feedback now, etc" when I had worked w/ them effectively for a whole year prior to this incident. Week later I found myself fired, via TEXT MESSAGE, w/o forewarning, all b/c "my managers no longer felt comfortable managing me" 🥴 Like even w/ the gentle, empathetic communication from my end, it didn't change a thing to them, all the sudden they felt ~insecure~ despite me being the person harmed and I lost my job over their inability to literally do theirs 😭 The work environment was so casual and like "we're a family" (🙄) too that I never could have anticipated this being blown up the way it was. Never giving feedback to management again ffs 😮‍💨

What is one small but meaningful change that has improved your work environment?

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Hooking up with my work crush

Changing the way we speak to another when frustrated.

Change countries

Moving away from the white supremacist concept of urgency.

Minding my own damn business

Not letting the small things bother (but still prob fixing them anyway 🤪)

The owner understanding even with my salary I couldn't afford healthcare. She gave me 3k to spend.

Learning that you can't make people see the problem until it becomes a problem for them.

Quitting

What is ONE thing you would change about your current work?

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Their reception to critical feedback (they want everyone to say yes to everything)

Set expectations and goals from leadership

Maybe a little bit more money but otherwise it's Gucci gang 🤙🏻

I wish we could say no more

For ownership to appreciate how much their staff busts their ass on a regular basis for them

MGMT who cares. And upper MGMT who have kitchen exp.

I wish mgmt understood that if we're understaffed, we cannot accommodate a full restaurant

Get rid of the owners.

Traditional benefits, like health insurance (or lack thereof)

How do you combat burnout?

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Go to bed early, take my Lexapro, off days = do absolutely nothing

I haven't figured it out yet. Feels like whether I'm at work or home, it never stops.

I get so sick I have to go to the hospital. Can't get well. Quit/get fired and then take time off.

Make to-do lists and done lists. It helps me to see what I've actually accomplished

Prioritize nutrition and sleep. Be honest w/those around me about my needs

Changing my roles & responsibilities. Emotional regulation. Time off. Therapy.

Do something that I love that the work takes away from me, like finding time to make art

Listen to my body regardless of my desire to be proactive

On my days off I try to do at least one thing I love and see people I love.

Don't be a potato for more than a day. Two consecutive potato days make me feel worse.

Ask my parents to take my toddler, slow down at work, start making plan to rest

At the very beginning of COVID I had to find new grounding techniques. Like gardening

Do the absolute bare minimum at work lol

Knitting. Relaxing & there's something tangible to make me feel accomplished.

Not accepting extra work/shifts, sleeping, having fun away from work

Make plans, spend time with people who energize/inspire me to be more than the job

Long solo road trip!

How can restaurants better operate as community spaces?

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Open their space for radical community organizers to meet

Create space for community leaders/mutual aid groups/organizers w/o requiring $$$

Make a "houseless person meal" button, quick & filling, along w/ drink & restroom use

Eliminate the "customer is always right" — sometimes they're WRONG.

Make a point to train & hire folks in the direct neighborhood w/o restaurant experience

Creating affordable daycare systems that are open the hours that restaurants are

Stop running with skeleton staffs

First they need to be community spaces for their employees.

Instead of finding a space for a thought-out concept, mold the concept to fit the space

Consent-based scheduling, profit sharing/cooperative ownership, PTO, training

Education, local fundraising, off-hour free use of space for organizations

A lot of burnout time

Start by paying living wages. Take care of the people who take care of you.

Boundaries around scheduling

Pay their employees a high enough wage so they can afford rent in the immediate neighborhood!

What does a labor union mean to you?

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Health insurance!! 401k!! 30min breaks!!!!

A labor union means workers are better protected when they organize!

Example: workers at Cellar Door were let go whilst organizing around COVID safety.

A formal labor union could have helped in so many ways, by providing support, solidarity

And most of all, knowing the rights workers have when in conflict with bosses.

They also mean community building, services, and activities!

More bargaining power with employers!

It means better benefits for everyone, union or not. Non-union jobs must compete.

What does it mean to be hospitable?

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Caring & welcoming - meet someone where they're at & make them more comfortable

Care and mutuality

To make a safe & pleasant environment for everyone.

Caring, welcoming and polite both from the guest and hosts alike.

I think of being hospitable as sharing resources, knowledge, and skills. Caring about the comfort of other people.

How do you protect your time and energy as valuable resources?

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Yoga, shadow work, and having healthy boundaries. Intention setting.

My phone lives on silent mode. I do not obligate myself to be at its attention 24/7

Sometimes this fux me up...😬

Rigid boundaries ✌️

Meditate. And boundaries.

I schedule relaxing time into my day even if it means waking up earlier — coffee on my porch!

Only have the gram on my iPad, schedule email days and no work days. Boundaries and no's

What are you getting that is positive from coping mechanisms?

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Momentary joy and fulfillment from spending money. Wanting to be treated the way I treat my guests.

Temporary relief. Reminder of self worth and identity. Reconnecting with my body.

Being able to forget about the constant trauma of this past year, even if just for a lil while

Routine and autonomy over my lived experience

Breaking cyclical habits that are used as coping mechanisms.

Better sex. My partner and I both work in the industry so we make our time well spent.

Regaining control of that moment, no matter how brief or unhealthy/healthy it is

How do you take care of yourself when at work?

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Hydrate in the walk-in!

Stretch breaks.

Go to the bathroom. I try to ground myself and refocus.

Bathroom break: 5 mins. Actual time it takes to do my business: >1 minute

What kind of boundaries at work would you benefit from?

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I don't want to be asked to work on my days off! 😭 I give in to pressure

No touching or any server.

Having autonomy. If a guest is berating me — I want autonomy to be able to tell 'em they're wrong

I hate when customers demand to know your name and then use it in every sentence

Collective re-setting of space when negativity or anxiety is high.

Stopping name dropping in order to benefit from special treatment or discounts

A community member is confronting a manager about abusive behavior. What tips/support can we offer them?

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Make sure there's a neutral third party in the conversation

Google if you live in a one-party consent state

Have bullet points written down, as well as abusive comments, so you don't forget.

Make sure there is someone you trust/that supports you and will not be in a position to have to choose sides.

Maybe follow up with an email so you leave a paper trail

Take notes during the meeting to make sure you remember what they offer/promise

RECORD!

Don't forget to breathe. Take care of yourself. You don't owe them anything.

Have those receipts. Any documentation that you have, take with you.

Also, knowing that you can and will — if you choose — walk away gives you more leverage/power.

What ways could ur employer be more transparent + communicative?

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Written onboarding paperwork detailing benefits, pay, schedule

& an HR consultant to guide new hires through that paperwork

Financial transparency would be huge for our industry

Ever have a meeting to get everyone on the same page about changes in the biz

Get drunk less often so they can remember having said certain things to people.

Allow unions for worker representation as well as financial transparency

At my job we typically have twice weekly all-staff meetings and I love it cuz at my last job the communication was so nonexistent

A cohesive plan that is laid out in writing & isn't walked back at the 1st sign of inconvenience.

What are your skills?

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Listening, caring, leading crafting workshops, organizing clutter, driving, jam making, baking

Interpersonal communication, knife skills, leadership, active listening, "chill" in high-stress

Sewing, hemming, cooking, making tea

Empathy

Fermenting, canning, curing, and other food preservation techniques.

How have your views on hospitality changed since you started?

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Yes. I work in the lots of West Loop spots and FUCK THEM ALL. Now I clock in/clock out.

...and have no intention of investing emotional energy in any place I work at...

...this industry supports my hobbies. And it's all I'm here for

I learned to put myself first and not accept bad behavior as part of the job.

Everyone is out for themselves. Favoritism and nepotism will never die.

Hospitality means treating employees well, not just guests, fundamental.

This is an industry that I love and it doesn't love me back and it's toxic. IDK anything else.

Yeah, it's not about being hospitable, it's about stacking business transactions.

Yep clock in/out... It's a job, not my life, that is all.

Stay away. Not worth it. Not worth the money, the hustle, the stress.

Give your energy to the good ones, revoke your personality privileges from the turds.

Don't take the job that seems to have no rules.

Don't ever work at Warlord...seriously

If a white-owned business clings to a marginalized identity, prepare for racism and toxicity.

Steal something from work every day.

Even though I'm at a spot where people are treated fairly and I trust management, the work is still SO physically emotionally draining & leaves me with little left to give to the rest of my life.

Yes, so much so that I had to leave the industry.

What are we saying yes and no to in 2025?

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Yes to boundaries, no to things that are not a part of my job description

Expensive restaurants. I can cook just as well at home and not feel like I was just robbed.

No to working an entire shift without eating

Yes to work-life balance & boundaries, no to things I'm not paid to do

Yes to equitable pay FOH/BOH pay structure and no to underpaid, inexperienced, resentful managers.

Yes: moving for more work opportunities. No: delaying therapy

Yes to a hard end time, no to custies that try to ask for shit that doesn't exist.

What are things you do to care for your physical body?

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Stretch, drink water

Yoga, baby!!!! Once a day even if it's just for 10 mins.

Hip mobility exercises. Hot baths. Taking vitamin D supplements.

Stretch everyday

Cycling

Regular doc visits, stretch, hydrate, meditate a little, eat good nutritious food, SLEEP

Walk a lot, no cigarettes, very little alcohol. 43yo can't hang with the younglings

No alcohol, drink lots of water, stretch, eat nutrient-dense foods, rest

Eating vegetables, drinking water, yoga and exercise as many days as I can

What makes you feel safe?

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Stability

Nothing lately

Inclusion, being part of the conversation and learning and sharing with others.

Legally binding agreements

When employees/managers don't treat the workplace like a dating pool.

Management that knows the customer is not always right.

Open (kind) communication and clear expectations.

Knowing my employer has my back.

My friends

People who still wear masks & test consistently.

How can ur employer help ensure you're taking care of yourself during work?

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Communication...I know such a novel concept

Breaks! Just like every other industry has...

This! But also ensuring that it's an actual break where your tables/orders are taken care of, you have a comfortable place to sit or stretch, and no one is bothering you. And making sure the break is there when you need it, not in the very beginning or end of your shift just because that's when it's convenient for the restaurant

This reminds me of a restaurant I worked at where hosts used to get a shift meal (about $10 worth off the menu, counting the 50% employee discount.) They got rid of shift meal and while "actual breaks" were still a thing, taking shift meal away IMO disincentivized breaking. Shift meal kinda indirectly ensured that hosts were taking an actual sit-down break away from the floor. As I'm sure a lot of FOH understand, there is a temptation to stay on the floor to ensure things are handled and you're not leaving anyone hanging, even when you might want and need a real break or anyone tbh, not just FOH of course, I'm just speaking from my experience

Provide basic necessities like breaks, mats, stools, nutritious/satisfying family meal...

They can literally ask me about it. How are you taking care of yourself today? How can I help?

How do we protect one another?

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Mutual aid networks will be crucial if we (as a proletariat) can organize a general strike.

Also, tell ICE that you will not be complying without a court order.

Rotating wildcat strikes through the industry.

Mask up

Pay a living wage

Actually care: look, listen, check in

For owners/brands/those with power: share profit. With workers, with community. Offer free and sliding scale meal options. Donate food. Host a food drive for food insecure people in your neighborhood. Brands, put your money where your fucking mouth is. If your brand is sustained because of work that bartenders/servers/managers do to push your products, then give back finally. Support the strike funds. Support Uber funds for undocumented workers afraid of riding public transit right now. Support GoFundMes for workers who have medical bills. Start a fund for mental health care for workers. Fund substance abuse treatment.

Accountability standards, living wage, vision/dental benefits, help build resume, EMPATHY

How do you envision your ideal work culture?

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Non-hierarchical

Equitable, wellness focused, honest & effective communication

Treat everybody with respect (this encompasses everything including $$$)

Shared passion, excellent, high level of trust. A team of professionals moving seamlessly

Working for a co that invests in employees the same as they do other facets of the business

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Industry Love

What horror character or monster is each position in a restaurant?

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Dishwasher: Freddy Krueger

Hostess: Jennifer from Jennifer's Body

Line cooks: Gremlins

Craft bartender: Wishmaster

Busser: Jason

Head chef: Toni Collette doing the “I AM YOUR MOTHER” bit in Hereditary

Somm: Dracula

Host: Elvira

GM: Beetlejuice

AM: Damien

SA: Michael

Sous: Freddy

Dish: Hannibal

General Manager: La Llorona

Favorite part about working in hospitality?

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Not answering phone calls or emails on my days off!

When everyone working is synced up/in a groove and it feels like effortless teamwork

Camaraderie

Contributing to the joyful experiences of others

The opportunity to eat things I wouldn't normally be able to afford

Unique connection with people

After working FOH for years, ability to read people

Sharing my talent with people and making a memorable event for and with them. And teaching.

The friendships are the best ones

Learned more about cooking than I did in culinary school

Learning how to produce proteins multiple different ways.

Friendship!

People - restaurant people are salt of the earth & it's great meeting new guests

Co-workers, cash tips

What does Hospitality smell like?

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Freshly watered plants

Fresh bread and freshly brewed coffee

When you come home from work on a busy Mother's Day and you finally smell yourself

Sweat unsuccessfully covered by expensive perfume

The inside of the walk-in

Warm biscuits and strawberry jam

Firewood. Brown people hugs. The Maillard reaction. Butter.

The dish pit, which often but not always smells a bit like steamy garbage

Dish water

Sterile smell of plastic wrap that also reminds me of the hospital

What valuable skills has working in hospitality given you?

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An absolutely absurd work ethic

Patience.

The ability to cook for myself

Multitasking like a MF

Ability to prioritize quickly, multitasking, patience, handling high-stress sits. I could go on.

Confidence

The ability to ask myself "what's the worst that could happen" as a means of coping.

Resilience in the face of not knowing how to handle a situation.

A flexible and adjustable and ever-ready sense of urgency

The absurd ability to not be stressed until something is actually on fire

The ability to be COMPLETELY unfazed by fuckery.

Beast Mode — no panic no matter how busy or how much needs to be done

Accountability for my words and actions

Superhuman levels of multitasking, efficiency, & social intuition/empathy

Effective prioritizing under pressure, conflict resolution, broader worldview

The ability to carry a ton of stuff in just these two hands

Time management (but only for cooking), cooking, faking a good mood

Being able to stay cool when people are literally impossible

Time management

Utter tolerance & no expectations

It's totally OK to yell at boss "ef u" and walk out.

Being resourceful, making do with what you have.

Learning from each other's strengths, whether by asking/osmosis/watching and learning

Sucking up to transphobes, finding compassion for them sometimes

Not sweating mistakes, moving on to solutions

Patience

Efficiency, communication, compassion, resilience

Multitasking like a MFer

Who are some unlikely allies you’ve made in hospitality?

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Connections to farmers

Managers who were looking for a way out

The 55yr old porter from Mexico, barely spoke English. Its been years but he still hmu to get beers.

A Mexican woman who made pasta, she was 10+ years my senior and spoke little English and I barely spoke Spanish but we were great friends. I remember crying in her car after a breakup and she held my hand the entire time.

What’s your favorite hospitality moment?

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Getting a beer at the end of the night

Finally deciding the industry is too ableist for me and leaving, too long for change.

Anytime I get to laugh and sing or even dance with coworkers, and find the customers joining in.

Taking my brother to the place I worked. He was enchanted by how generous everyone was with him.

Hugs in the weeds

What’s the last thing you ate that blew your mind?

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Fried halloumi

The garlic sauce or kimchi from Vargo Brother Ferments

Mi Tocaya snuck into my top 3 meals all time, amazing food/experience

Pikliz

I had samosa chaat for the first time recently, such dynamic flavors and textures

Roasted pineapple and Tajín bars from Cansabakery. I still dream about them.

Salt & honey pie with bee pollen from Rood Food & Pie in Lakewood, Ohio.

An apricot

Carrot side dish @theexchange — charred with coconut and garlic chili

Mi Tocaya! Perioddd

What small/micro/popup hospitality businesses in Chicago deserve a shoutout? Who’s doing rad work?

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@velai.chi

@cutoncechicago

Sebastian and Taylor — Vargo Bros Ferments

Tasting India — best samosas in town!!

Present Tense Bar

Funeral Potatoes!

De La Gateau!!

Vargo Brother Ferments!

@motorshucker

@off_premise_chicago

Del Sur Bakery!

Tokio Sake, Deer Park

@lupitas_quesadillas

@labarra.chi

Funeral Potatoes!

Motorshuckkkkerrrr

Northside Cutlery. Offers industry discounts. Overall great human being.

Vargo Brother Ferments!!! Amazing people, AMAZING products!!

Delagateau

When is a moment you had hope in our love for this industry?

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Watching how we treat one another (our coworkers) with genuine hospitality

Everyone working towards the betterment of the restaurant

We wanna hear about your work dreams. 😶‍🌫️😴😵‍💫

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Every time I turn around I've been sat a new table but I haven't even greeted the last 4

Would love to work with a small chef driven team — looking for the right opportunity. 🫶🏼

Ticket printer sound fully wakes me up from the deadest sleep, always

Working with a great team and leader receiving full benefits with growth opportunities and then stock ownership. I once worked for a big place in LA that promised me this and here I stand with broken promises with nothing.

Full section but new table numbers and unfamiliar POS

My section is always too large, the computer won't work, and I get flat sat.

Which position is each sign?

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Servers are Cancers and Pisces — crying in the walk-in

Wrong! Geminis are hosts

As a Gemini, I hate this 😂😂

Good chefs are Leo, power-trippy chefs are Libra

Leos are the best hosts 💅🏽✨️

Managers are Scorpio rising

Most pastry chefs are Virgos!

Butchers are Virgos

Aries or Leos are bartenders

Capricorns are holding down the hot line 😤♑️🐐

Aquarius reppin' barbacks because we love chaos from a distance lol

I'm a Capricorn server. I can do all y'all jobs 😘

I'm a Leo stellium and a bartender 😬😂

What are ways hospitality has made you feel part of a community?

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Trauma bonds with your coworkers go a long way!

It was an easy way to meet other queer folks when I first moved to the city

The after work drink

A comedian said working in the industry was akin to serving in Nam. We all just know.

When you're tricked into thinking your job is your personality

Shared trauma?

It doesn't. I am an over-prepare, do things right right away person..

And it's a quite a lonely place to be

When industry friends visit each other after every job change in support

What part/work in hospitality would you like to see awarded/recognized?

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Servers!

MAÎTRE D'/HOST!

The little things we do/our day-to-day energy that becomes assumed as a standard

Dishwashers

Hosts! 1st point of contact, set pace of the dining room, front line dealing w/ entitled/cruel ppl

Dishwashers! Food runners! Hosts!

Anyone that takes ownership and makes it better. Not just the chef or GM

Host & dishwashers to the FRONT

Dishwashers! They're amazing people and I appreciate them so much. Kitchen heroes!

Everyone written off as "not a real job" (dishwashing, hosts, runners, etc)

Dishwasher of the Year 🥇

Line cooks on the flat for 6+ hours straight without a break in the summer which is the hottest

Dishwashers

My heart awards the dining room assistant crews that hold it together ❤️

All the dishwashers, porters, and prep cooks that keep the ship running.

Dishwashers

The emotional labor necessary for "the best service" is implicitly and unfairly unpaid

Work culture / environment

Dishwashers!

Interns

DISH

Why do you work in hospitality?

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The friends I make along the way 🤝

It's all I know

The money 🤑

I stumbled into it, but lately have been feeling very disheartened by how it's ran.

It's my only option

Table scraps — I was a hungry college student. Here I am a decade later, one year sober, entering a different field

I'm good at it. It sucks that I have to be a GM that sucks my soul to make money

Came for the schedule flexibility, stayed for the incredibly loving people

I don't have a degree and it's the most I'll make without one

Because I've been trained to think of others before myself and I'm really good at it.

Passionate about food and sharing that passion

Because it doesn't matter how many degrees you have — still make more money in hospitality

My college degree is trash and it's the most money I'm able to make

Making small differences in someone's lives every day

I happen to be naturally skilled at it, but find it exploitative and draining

So I'm not a starving artist

Thoughts on popups and underground hospitality experiences?

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Seems like a good way to test the market for what you want to produce

Did 10 popups in 4 months for my new concept. Very rewarding but also very exhausting.

#2008

Great chance for creative minds to try some different ideas for diners.

Do what you have to do to stay sane in the hospitality world. Make your own path! ❤️

I love them! Especially at places like breweries that don't have food/kitchens 1/2

However, businesses that host pop ups can be very predatory/problematic 2/2

Great opportunity to be creative and cook something other than your usual dishes!

I want to like them (and sometimes do) but often feel like they're very New York Restaurant Starter Pack

I wish the attention every smashburger popup has was spread to more creative ones

What values has the hospitality industry given you?

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Your community (coworkers) are what keep you afloat in times of stress

Communicating expectations clearly for coworkers and guests alike

Empathy, teamwork, work ethic

Teamwork, respect for all food workers

Owners = bad

EMPATHY. Appreciation for community. Spread wealth around.

Collaboration, perseverance, clear communication

Hmmm wow. Uh. I guess how to be conscientious, cooperative, responsive.

But I struggle to separate those good qualities from the fear-based nervous system response that comes from a consistent sense of urgency within a chaotic environment.

Being in mgmt and learning how to effectively communicate w. all different people.

Humanity and compassion. Especially for marginalized people.

It's taught me to value myself cause my boss isn't gonna do it for me

Clear communication with peers, how to take accountability and fix problems

Clear, direct communication. Letting go of things. Not taking shit personally.

Setting boundaries 🙌

Excellence and warmth

Not to underestimate myself & my abilities in stressful situations!

Empathy and boundaries

What does hospitality taste like?

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Lemon cucumber water

Cold food that you ordered then got busy

Coffee breath :/

Cultured butter

Chocolate milk your boss buys for the staff as a perk in place of an actual raise 🙃

Burnt grease

Empathy

The thing you didn't know you were craving. Once you taste it you're ravenous for it though

Eating staff meal over a garbage can.

Constant disappointment

Peach Red Bull and cold family meal

Coffeeeeee

Salt

Anger. Nicotine. Regret. Cold food.

Shot and a beer from the neighboring dive bar after shift

Missing out on every weekend event ever.

Endless free alcohol, getting fired for eating food

The walk-in

Warm orange soda

A cold lager, a shot of whisky and daiquiri if you nasty

Lime juice in an invisible cut

Wolfed-down family meal next to someone's lit cigarette

Bitters + soda

What are some misconceptions that people have about working in hospitality?

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That anyone can do it

That people only do it because they lack other options. Many find the work fulfilling.

That it's unprofessional or not "real" work.

It's easy

The hourly wage is good enough

Not a career/not a "real job"

That we haven't completed any higher education.

That it's "unskilled" labor

That hospitality equals being agreeable while being verbally abused/mocked/disrespected

It's not intellectually challenging.

That it's easy/people don't do it full time in the long run

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Pay

Higher paying corporate job or low-pay more freedom creatively?

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Both. Don't settle

Red pill or green pill.

Low pay + like 2 side hustles lol

Creative freedom

Low pay for sureeeee

Balanced and equitable guaranteed income for everybody???

Higher pay corp job... rent is expensive 🤢

Creative freedom is great until you need healthcare. I'm going corp now for peace of mind.

More money.. gotta support the fam.

Hi pay — stack the paper then leave and u can (afford to) do something creative

I've had creative freedom in corp jobs and none in low paying jobs. I want balance.

Low pay more freedom

Won't settle till I've got higher pay & creativity

Neither?? Both?? Forage??

Organize your coworkers and you can get both

Higher paying corporate job

Start w/ one, move to the other. Repeat.

Higher paying. It's been so long scraping by.

Corporate first to save up, then low pay

Corporate. Why do you need to "starve" to be an "artist"?

Save your creative energy for something that will nourish you

Always skipped money for creativity/passion

Literally stuck in this binary and it's exhausting and soul crushing.

What are pros + cons of tip pooling?

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Team mentality v individualism

Pros: More stable/reliable income & teamwork, less worry about preferential seating

Cons: More need to hold mgmt accountable for transparency in distributing tips

There's always 1 person who works harder than anyone else and 1 who doesn't do any work

Guests get better service since everyone has the incentive to look after them

Pro: I know I'm not being screwed over by cishet coworkers who I saved 10 times in a shift.

Con: I have to share my tips w/ folks who work a lot less hard than me for the same job

Would argue that a need to hold mgmt accountable is a pro — ie wage transparency and how it should be a thing.

Wage transparency hasn't panned out this way because the enforcement of the laws and even the laws themselves aren't clear to attorneys themselves (we've had a lot of cases of workplace issues with tip pool transparency/lack thereof)

Cons: Less individual incentive to upsell

Pro: Equitable for people who groups who statistically are tipped less than others.

If radical love and solidarity are what we're striving for in this industry, we're going to have to challenge the thoughts that perpetuate individualism, exceptionalism, etc... not everyone has the same toolbox to pull from and it's not awesome to hold others accountable for our personal expectations! Solidarity forever means all the time, always! Our chances of making more money are always higher when EVERYONE makes more money. To think we deserve a larger piece of the pie is disingenuous if the goal is for everyone to come up together.

I've worked both front and back of house and I can say I have days where I don't feel like I deserve the tips that I've gotten from a tip pool, and I've had days that I've worked harder than everyone I'm working with. And maybe there are people working that always have bad days.

Can be a con if AM/PM are pooled together. Generally, the PM shift sees a lot more guests, with higher check averages, belligerent guests, more side work. Sucks to lose 1/2 of the tips.

Pro: People are more likely to help each other when they have downtime = less stress 4 all

Pro: You can still make money as an individual if you get stuck with one really difficult table.

Generally no one wants to work the slow shifts, but they still need to be staffed and those folks still have the same bills to pay.

The whole "I work so much harder" mentality is rly gross. How does someone do that? You're really policing other peoples' movements that hard during the rush? And those ppl have good vs bad days.

I have worked in pooled houses most of my career. In my experience, those who don't do much or don't rise to the caliber of service as the rest of the team will get weeded out REAL quick. That results in a better more reliable team and usually means the team is close enough that they cover each other when someone is having an off day.

Everybody has an off day and everybody has a great day. It shouldn't be about being perfect every day to deserve good tips and wages. We are not machines, and if we were, machines break down too.

Con to this argument of "survival of the fittest" it is also how racial bias and discrimination can play in group dynamics and a POC gets ousted for no reason because everyone is complaining about how "lazy" they are.

I've found a tip pool tends to result in the most competent staff bc if someone is consistently contributing less to the team everyone has a stake in them either performing to team standards or leaving the team. I also think in general it helps weed out the "rugged individualists" who won't run food that isn't their tables or greet a table that isn't in their section. Being a part of a tip pool immediately makes you and your co-workers have more shared issues — which is great for worker power. Getting paid collectively just makes collective actions that much more obvious.

It means staff can be put in different sections and rotating duties (ie schedule people with a mix of bar, bar back, and floor shifts) so we are all capable of helping one another out when shift hits the fan. Nothing irks me more than someone who only ever wants to bartend and feels "above" barbacking or floortending. People get lazy. Obviously though on busy nights I will schedule people in the roles they are strongest at so we can rock the heck outta a night.

Thoughts on service charges and 3–5% insurance cost on checks?

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If it's a big lucrative group doing it that's stupid. But for small businesses 👍🏻

Also if the table is 6 or more there should absolutely always be 20% auto grat

Great, as long as that money actually goes to the workers/insurance. Often it doesn't

Why don't you just raise prices by 5% for insurance?

Restaurants should have to prove how many hourly folks get benefits

I think this should just be worked into the cost and not be added onto a check

I think it's misleading customers. Not everyone benefits from that service fee

I ain't never seen that reflected in my pay or benefits

Love the idea of it going to a fund for employees... tbc

Another solution would be to share bonuses for office staff w/ the laborers ... me thinks

I think it's a good thing. As long as restaurants aren't abusing this. Some do pocket it though.

Unless the policy is transparent enough it ends up on your pay stub, it's stealing tips

Better to add costs to menu prices, ppl get pissed and tip less.

Messed up. Just raise your prices slightly or eat the cost! It's the 👎 symbolism, not the $

How much do you get paid and what position are you?

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Bar prep, $23

Which job? I've got 3

I was a sous chef, $22/hr, friend was lead pastry chef, $24/hr (horrific work conditions)

$20/kitchen manager

Host x3: $16 + .25% tips, $18 no tips, $18 + 1% tips

$18.50/hr plus cash tips or in-person tips only — fast casualish place

Oops, FoH fast casual

Host: $16 (got a dollar raise after 6 months)

Barista, $17.50/hr + tips

Server, $7/hr, tip pool

Barista — $16.50/hr + tips (please tip your baristas!)

Server $11 + tips

$11.02 + tip pool — server, $14 + tip pool — shift lead

Pastry chef $26 salary

16 + tips FOH and BOH

Sorry $17, after 6 years of working there

$24, pastry chef, head cheesemonger, and occasional manager with the title.

$20/hr plus tips — line cook (but I wasn't quite sure what the split was before I left 😓)

Marine chef. $350/day

Server $20 w no tips

$25/hr chef, $18/hr prep cook, $20/hr line cook

Server. $11.02/h plus tip.

Barista. $13/hr + tips during two weeks of training. $15/hr + tips. Only 3–4 hour shifts.

$20 line cook, $13 + tips server assist, $18 doorman at bowling alley

Prep cook $27

Do you want managers? 👀

FOH mid-level salaried management — 56k

$11.02/hr to bartend, serve, buss, food run, manage and $17 for one hour PER SHIFT for just mgr duties

The server + every-other-fucking-job hours I work make tips. In theory.

Michelin Star restaurant manager — $40k 🤦‍♂️

Lg group GM — $98k, 1st time my servers/bartenders don't make more than me most days

CDC 90k

$65k head chef

$85k base + $12k benefits + $10k bonus AGM

Executive chef, 50k / year

Less than last living wage

Server tipped min wage ($11.02/hr) + tip pool = ~$56/hr

$30/hr crew member @TJ's

$23/hr + 20% service fee, hotel bartender in San Francisco

Have you ever received a "promotion" that didn't include financial compensation?

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Promoted to shift lead for absolutely 0 change in pay — maybe even a decrease

Yes

Does taking a 50% paycut with no change in hours count?

Of course they always do that

Literally just offered a promotion that included a 10k pay cut for more work 🙃

Staff trainer — waste

Became a key holder & saw no raise. Owner became verbally abusive when I called them out.

Became an assistant manager & could no longer take tips. Made less than tipped staff

Hired on as something that was supposed to be seen as "higher up" but with the pay and treatment like I was lower class, even though I was doing essentially parenting on top of all the physical labour

Every FOH manager I've had works another job to make ends meet w/o the tips 🤯🤯

Hired as salary with promise of leading own team, 6 months demoted to hourly (company demoted several positions) and absorbed another department's hourly tasks. And was expected to continue work initial salaried job tasks. Cannot clarify enough, there were several people hired at the same time as me that were also in this situation.

Promoted to catering manager & I make salary 60k less than some bartenders. SERIOUS!😭

Yeah a title change and that's it, "oh but its a promotion" more like more work no increase in pay

My manager gave me the title of 'head butcher', but no raise.

Same position at a diff, higher volume location, 30min closer... no raise bc I'd be saving gas $

Michelin star in Chicago (closed) paid 40k even when GM quit and left me alone

"Profit share" instead of real $ offered — an attempt to get me to work others harder 🤮

I was left in charge of the kitchen after being a line cook for 2 months & I had to teach everyone the owner hired how to cook because they either never worked in a restaurant before or had decades of bad training.

"We all wear many hats" without an end in sight

Manager vs server pay is usually not worth the hassle and long hours.

Yup, a bottle of rhum and more responsibility

Took on the biggest kitchen at work for an extra 20¢ an hour 🫠

Why have so many folks accepted more work without more money?

I think a great answer to this is just this long standing/old school train of thought especially for BOH (can't quite speak on the FOH side) that taking on additional responsibilities without an increase in pay was how you "earned your stripes" and "garnered the knowledge" with the hopes of being able to prove that you were able to move on up to that next role, usually being a line cook looking to move up to become a Sous chef.

It's almost like a promise of a future or a chance to evolve and move forward. As fast as this industry is it takes a while for folks esp who are not yt to move up even the slightest. So when it happens unfortunately ur willing to take whatever u can. — From a brown FOH

I think there's a pervasive fear in FOH that you gotta get on a management track to have a future as you age in the industry. Maybe it's joint pain, maybe it's a desire for predictable pay or status, but it is rarely worth the added headache

Reminds me of taking on nearly all pastry duties while also working garde mange and then while moving to Saute. Just $1 raise. This was earlier in my career and we didn't have a pastry chef. I took on the pastry because it was my true passion and the saute job paid my bills

How many sick days have you used this year?

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All of them 😭 had major surgery and had to take time off

0

Zero but should have

We get sick days?

0 bc we're so short staffed there's no one available to cover 🫠

I only had PSL hours, not days, because 1hr PSL per 35hrs worked is not enough

Don't have sick days

1 — fun fact city law employers can pay it next pay period 😑

3

0. Can't get sick or take time off for death if there's no one to cover the manager.

Last place: All of it. I had Covid and timing was good because I quit after a week. (1/2)

(2/2) Tartine Pasadena can go fuck

0

9. Wanted to get FMLA for depression and apparently it's not good enough reason

We don't get any

1

All & I plan to use what I accrue before the end of year again, yolo and it's not at work

0

0. Had to go in vomiting in between checking out customers. I quit shortly after.

2 or 3 and planning to use up all the hours before they expire.

Have you been asked to stage/work without pay as part of the interview?

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Not in Chicago!

Yes

Nope & never would. Time & energy is too precious ✨️

Like 75% of my stages. One was 10HRS unpaid — got staff and a loaf of bread as pay💩

Oh yeah. It felt standard for years

I even had a guy say he'd pay me but was MIA when it was time to pay up

Yes — one week at Alinea

Multiple times. First one I did was almost 10 hours!

Absolutely!

Yes

Not in Indianapolis

Yes 🙃 and it was required for every single back of house role

Yes

Yes.

Asked to have an interview after my 1st stage. Thought it was weird they didn't think we needed to sit down

Yes, always

Yes! I've experienced that here in Chicago and in other cities around the U.S.

Yup. With Cabra. I told them to go f@$&ck themselves

Yes, worked a shift on service bar that was unpaid, and didn't get tips

Yes! Had to sign a waiver beforehand!

Had a stage at Ever where I stood in a corner observing service for 8 hours.

Multiple times

Yes!! And they wanted me to stay ALL DAY. I did it. Full shift. Was one of my 1st kitchen jobs

Yes

Literally every job

Oh yes

Yes!

Every.Single Time, in Chicago BOH for the last 11+ years

3 separate Boka Group Restaurants, Loaf Lounge, Hardbitten Bakery...etc

Purple Pig, Scofflaw, Longman & Eagles, West Town Bakery...

Yes, more times than I can count.

Not in the last 5 year. But also I still haven't received payment from one I did last year.

It would be too much of a nuisance to track them down for it now.

This is NYC. I make a big deal now about making sure they know I know that they have to pay me.

Tons of times

One Off Hospitality

Yes

Yes. Up only until recently have people offered to pay

B hospitality; y'all should expose them for the shifty company they are tho.

Yes

Yes! Minnesota, Montana, New Orleans

11 hours at Commanders Palace — they offered me $9 & expected people to work OT w/o pay

Yes everywhere in Austin

For every job

Part 2 — Have you been asked to stage/work without pay as part of the interview?

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Yes. BOH I can understand but FOH is bullshit

Decided not to apply to Froth because a friend said they didn't pay for a stage

Land and Sea makes you sign a waiver. You waive your right to being paid. Is that legal?

Does your job offer health insurance? If so, how much do you pay for it?

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Nope!! lmao!

Yes but I'm in the union so it's cheap

Yes, to anyone who works an average of 20+ hrs / week after 90 days of employment.

I have a good middle tier United Healthcare plan and pay $90/week pre-tax.

Yes, but it's $$$. $375/month lowest plan with basically nothing, $475+/month for anything decent

Yes, $300/month

Yes, and they purposely cut my hours so I am always just 1 hour away from qualifying🥲

I had to buy my own private plan and it's $600 monthly 🫠

$75 a week for non mgmt, mgmt doesn't pay premiums

Yes, but I use my husbands bc his is better/cheaper

My job pays half of our insurance, we can pick any company & policy

Yes, they offer to pay half, but it's still too high, the owner gave 1,800 a year for health expense

$226/mo, includes dent+vis. BCBSIL PPO. I work for a large restaurant group.

172 ish per month

NOOOO HAHAHAHA

Yes, but I get it through my husband (works at WFM).

Does your identity impact how much money you make?

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Yep. Had a boss even tell me he could pay women less. That's why he hires them

Hell yeah!

Yes

My boss likes hiring inexperienced people so he can pay them less 🙃 I hate it

Oh yes. So does how I dress & how much effort guests perceive that I put into my looks that day.

Heavily + most of my jobs I feel like almost didn't hire me based off looking very young and fem

I think so. I'm nonbinary & I intentionally try to dress femme, wear lots of makeup etc. in tipped positions even on days when it gave me gender dysphoria or didn't feel right.

Maybe that's more about presentation but to many customers it "looked" like ID

Absolutely

Everyone who originally responded to this question was either a person of color or a woman/femme presenting. Not a single white man responded and y'all show up for other questions. Do white men not feel like their identity affords them higher pay? 🤔

Totally does. I make only $0.50 less now than the previous femme sous chef made when she was at the store I work at. New sous makes ~$3–8/hr more than she did and he gets away with doing waaay less work.

I remember working at HamBRGR and being hired on at the same wage as their longest working femme employee. Much more was often expected of her than of other male staff members. I brought this up to management along with other concerns of abuse and was fired not long after. (I'm male presenting for pov context)

My friend and coworker is Haitian and up until recently managed the second of two locations owned by our boss. Without any feedback/warning or support to improve she was booted from the position. Meanwhile a white, male floor manager at my location has retained his position while others in management continue to take his duties off his plate because he is ineffective in his position. But he gets to keep his job. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ okay. 👌🏻

Haaaaaaaaa here's a story: One night after a long shift at my last job (ex-bartender), the management sent out the nightly email showing the math for how much the bar team members each made that night, bc transparency. My two compatriots were mixed race and white passing and cisgender heterosexuals. My disabled white ass was and is very gender non conforming (aka obvs gay/trans). We were all having a beer and looked at the email and both of them are like "what?! You made shit and worked so hard!" But when I looked at the amount, I was like "no but this is the most money I've ever made at a job." And there was this moment of sad silence, and one of them said "then your other jobs screwed you." Then a couple of years of panderosa later, I went back with more-disabled hands to try to get back into it, and (1) had ruined my hands, but (2) knew all the ins and outs of every position except actually cooking (despite occasionally helping a cook prep). And a new manager assumed I was a manager

But I never was, and I realized I never was going to be. So now I'm broke af in school trying to do something else, bc not one career I've tried out of 4 or more can get past ableism and transphobia

Definitely. As a woman, I see the men I work with say some of the most unhinged shit imaginable and get a 25% tip on it, but if I don't behave like I'm in servitude to my guests, I get complaints that I'm a bitch. It's rare bc I try really hard to overcompensate, but damn near any time I have to tell a guest we can't accommodate something I get a complaint, while the dudes I work with just get a flat "no" and no one cares. Their tips are often significantly higher than mine even though I have more experience and a higher degree of menu knowledge, and I spend way more time with my tables ensuring they have a thoughtful experience. To the point that even my least socially aware bro coworkers notice the difference. As a white cis straight-presenting woman, I'm absolutely sure that my BIPOC and trans coworkers experience this to a way more severe degree than I do, especially when I worked downtown or in Wrialeville.

What are your thoughts on service charges vs tips?

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They aren't going to workers the same way tips would- workers make less

Service charges only benefit the employer. More places should make that clear.

There needs to be total transparency on where the money is going.

For the sake of "offsetting cost of living hourly wage" which is misleading, ppl are makin less

Fair (live-able) hourly wage concurrent w profit sharing is the only future of F&B. 1/2

"Service charges" would be built in to either check totals or item prices to fund it. 2/2

100% go to tips where I work. Great 4 people who don't think they should tip takeout!

Thissss, isn't the actual living wage now like $24/hour in Chicago?? I feel like I read that here but maybe that's made up in my head

Then we progress to profit sharing and eventual cooperative ownership.

A service charge doesn't always go directly to the servers/staff

Service charge. It is not the customer's job to decide the worth of their service

Just increase prices, pay a Fair wage. Now it's a required tip, which they should be anyway.

But I also always question the transparency of service charges. Let's see that report!

If they're not going to the workers they're not "service" charges! Lies! Lies! Liza Minnelli!

We call it a living wage fee and it's 15% to pay workers $15+ — tips still accepted

Bigger tips go to the more desirable/likeable/respectable workers. Is this fair?

Transparency from ownership/leadership is necessary along with solidarity from labor in the necessity of shared, transparent service charge sharing amongst all non-management labor.

Service charge is the only way to get custys to understand the true cost of production w/o sticker shock.

I haven't seen a service charge that goes 100% to staff. Please don't take away my tip line

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Workplace Environment

What are your thoughts/feels on food bloggers/influencers?

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They need to stop freeloading and pay full price like other paying customers!

I want to hear about more food influencers of colour/of Indigenous roots!!

Entitled + not entirely helpful freeloaders

Tourists

They're mostly useless and parasitic

👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

I see the influencers as an extension of the bourgeoisie class that exploits this industry.

Bloggers I don't mind as long as it's not stealing or appropriating or a yt person "discovering" POC food.

Often directly benefiting off of diet culture

Poseurs

They bring nothing new or interesting to the table. Just fancier food photos and reels.

At best: Boring normies! At worst: Entitled groupies!

Just say no!

I ignore them because they lack critical insights into basic topics like... food... not everyone but still.

They're a great catalyst for getting people into food & cooking, profesh or 4 fun.

They want free food/drink, don't tip, and expect you to spend all your time waiting on them.

Easy come, easy go. Terrible tippers, free loaders.

They need to start tipping, they never/rarely ever do.

Realize you deserve the same service and treatment as every other guest.

It feels weaponized.

🚨🚨🚨 Entitled and intrusive. Often film or photo ppl without asking for consent for views.

They suck, I'd love to see them TRY to work a week in a restaurant.

The worst guests

Who needs 'em

I get jealous that they're eating and cooking wherever and whatever with little economic penalty.

Influencers 👎 and "critics" 👎 but if you just write about what you like then power to you.

They can all go kick rocks.

I hope it's a fad that will end soon. I'd like to see talent and intelligence in the world again.

Why did you quit your last hospitality job?

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Owners were not following/enforcing COVID safety policies and ignored the indoor dining ban.

The lack of consistency and respect.

I couldn't keep working until 5 AM for pay that was just average.

Got fucked over by owners then lectured for an hour about how it was my fault.

Cost them THOUSANDS in missed revenue because people wouldn't come back.

There was no accountability, they had a rat problem, and tip pool was unfairly split, and more.

To go to another one that would pay me more.

Insane hours + responsibilities.

Owners/mgmt berating my team in front of guests. Outing undocumented folks. Etc.

GM took me off schedule after I had a family emergency. He told me to "consider if I wanted to work there."

Abusive owner and the overall toxic environment perpetuated by her.

Overtasked and underpaid. Owners value public perception of sustainability over the staff.

I went to law school.

Unfair treatment — lack of trust, respect, transparency. Also: gaslighting, money owed to me by employer for labor and cost of goods, other staff damaged my personal equipment.

Loved my job & sad for the loss. Owner gave staff COVID, didn't give notice in time to prevent it.

Crazy amounts of food waste and nothing being done about it.

Overwhelmed owner was screaming @ employees. Emotional outbursts were daily.

Unrecognized burnout and lack of empathy from the bosses.

Tasks and stress were far more daunting than in the past and pay dropped significantly.

Pay discrepancy and burnout, baby!!

Got "promoted" but still paid $2.13 even when I wasn't getting tips.

Had a baby & was a single mom w/ limited availability. Owner/managers became hostile.

I left the hospitality industry altogether because of this.

Toxic ownership.

Tired of doing two people's jobs for half the pay and none of the credit.

Abusive hours and abusive treatment from the Bev Director that the company would not fix.

My boss had no empathy for most of us.

To move into mgmt. That sucked, so I'm back behind the bar!

Owner fired my co-manager via text in the midst of a fight. So I quit.

Emotionally exhausted, needed a change.

Toxic Management.

The reward for hard work is more hard work. The body eventually burns out.

I moved. The one before that though was an abusive environment.

To attempt to cease using alcohol.

No PTO/health benefits /: The pay was really fair too. Wish it could have worked out.

I wasn't allowed to take a break even though the law gives me one.

2 jobs ago: Wouldn't allow 2 days off in a row and insisted on working close/open shifts.

Last one due to petty, inept mgmt. Never put out a schedule. Ever! Honor system to show up.

I was on salary and making less than people I was managing.

Constantly felt unheard when bringing up legitimate issues they weren't willing to address!

Burnt out and moral injury.

No Social Security, they avoided taxes, long shifts, low salary, toxic owners, classist customers....

New bartender on acid & stealing tips. Mgmt rather "talk to him" because they liked his "presence" in otherwise all-fem staff.

How do you advocate for a break when you need one during your shift?

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Say you're literally gonna pee your pants.

Wave our union contract around :)

I burst into tears.

After checking in with my teammates, I straight up tell management, I don't ask.

Mgmt should proactively mandate breaks to everyone so folx feel empowered to manage their health.

I agree with the person who said breaks should be mandated! We shouldn't have to advocate for them. But I always end up going through teammates or peers (laterally) gather them up.

Drop everything once I'm at a good stopping point. The work can wait.

Ask.

"Just wanted to let you know I haven't had my break yet. My shift ends at this time."

"Hey_ has my section. I'm taking 15."

If the restaurant doesn't plan for that and set that time aside they're trash.

How does/could your employer show that they value you?

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By paying me a living wage and honoring my availability.

Listen to us and trust us.

By reaching out not only when they need me.

By getting an actual break for a meal, a drink of water, a moment to rest my feet.

By talking to us instead of making decisions for us when they don't even work on site.

Allowing changes from the bottom up and respecting my availability/work life balance.

Allowing growth within the company and matching my growth in pay.

By acknowledging my concerns the first time I voice them.

Paying a wage comparable to skill level and hours worked, incentives for additional work.

Showing interest in your personal life outside of work and being curious about u!!!

Weekly or bi-weekly 1 on 1s.

Buy some pizza.

Free: acting and treating us like professionals and adults.

Not free: living wages, benefits, perks (like free food/drink off menu, not garbage staff meal).

Bonus: child care stipends, dining out stipends, R&D $$.

How do restaurants make you feel interchangeable?

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If you ever raise a concern they remind you that you are easily replaced while simultaneously referring to you as family if they need something. Can be very abusive.

By 1 - raising worker wage to full minimum for two weeks, 2 - taking our tips, 3 - giving back a tiny %.

If by interchangeable you mean replaceable: Low pay, few/no benefits, talking down to etc etc.

If you mean adaptable: cross training on stations, menu changes, guest mods/requests.

LOL employers/chefs saying "you're replaceable" every day.

Boss tells guests he could run the restaurant himself (four of us work 100 hour weeks).

Not recognizing or rewarding work at standard or above and beyond. No incentives for hardworking staff in a pooled house with inconsistent standards.

Excessive turnover being a "just part of the business."

Expectations of experience turning into bad training.

"You don't want this job, I can find someone else."

The at-will law doesn't help. Just snip the problem hairs and get new ones.

Having hours taken away after taking time off for illness, family issues or a loved one passing.

Why do restaurants use a top-down model 4 creating and enforcing policies?

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As a manager all I do is correct mistakes but I'm not allowed to make any of my own.

Because it's all most people know, understand, can manage.

BC u have to believe something is possible 4 it to be. Most rests dont/cant/wont.

Simple, command and control. It's autocratic, it's time limiting, it's narrow sighted and less autonomy.

All business does this. Not unique to restaurants.

To keep workers from strengthening themselves as a true team.

If owners/managers don't care to participate in systems why should anyone else?

I feel as tho nondemocratic structures are common in the US, but it makes the exploitation easier.

I tried participating in this system as a manager and it made me hate my life. I think I have a learned response of conflict avoidance that made me ill suited to the position to begin with, but it also highlighted that I really don't believe in hierarchical decision making systems especially in work environments. I can't say I have a comprehensive response in how to enact a different system in food service for the majority of my life. I've never seen a different model. But I've seen managers with different, more inclusive attitudes towards their employees and I know that some businesses exist under a democratic model where all employees have a say in company management. This is what I believe is ideal. So to answer your question: I think really it's out of laziness. I think most people begin new businesses with good intentions but with a capitalistic mindset that ultimately benefits/honors a small number of people.

I recently went from the style of hierarchy to a more equitable where all of front of house makes the same amount of wages and tips per shift (everyone from back waters, to bartenders, to hosts). The culture is so different and there is so much less bad blood between the FOH staff. We feel more accountable to each other, not just management. It's possible to make policies like this and create a system that is more beneficial and empowering to the staff, but many restaurants/bars act like it can't/won't work and cite the industry standard of hierarchy. My new job isn't perfect but its infinitely less toxic and infantilizing than other structures I've experienced.

Because leadership don't really want to be subject to the policies they create.

Because some supervisors/managers "didn't like" how something was done before. Considering how it works and its application in the restaurant.

I'd like to think top-down models for creating & enforcing policies are in their final days. It's a broken system that gives ownership/management a monopoly on decision making which, as we've seen repeatedly, is not sustainable. "Because I said so" is no longer the final word. Just because it's the way things have always been done doesn't mean it's been working for everyone. The individuals on the receiving end of these out-of-touch policies have valuable insight to contribute to the conversation. But that would require ownership/management who wants to create space for that conversation. Luckily, we're at a time in the industry where there's more and more examples every day of more equitable/effective ways of operating.

I think a lot of owners/managers are too lazy/scared to make changes. They can blame it on slim margins, but ultimately this is a system that's beneficial to them. If the hourly employees are at each others throats and put down then they can operate without accountability for themselves. There's a lot of work to be done to building equitable spaces in hospitality, and a lot of the "old guard" will have to be moved out of the way to get there.

What does gatekeeping look like in the industry?

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If you don't have money or access to capital you won't be able to set your own agenda.

Not promoting from within an establishment!

Only giving certain "approved" people opportunities or exposure.

You've not paid your dues yet.

Stages. Having to work for free just to get a job!!!

Purposely keeping people in low level positions. Refusing to train lower level folks (barbacks, bussers, porters) to keep hierarchy in place and stagnant, so those on the top can profit. The fact that you can work years in bottom tier positions with knowledge and skill just outside your reach, which is used as an excuse not to promote you/pay you more. This especially works against marginalized folks navigating the industry. It can be so hard to move up even as an establishment touts itself for hiring you so they can have a staff that appears diverse and inclusive. The wage gap is astonishingly pronounced in the service industry for this reason also. And it's why we see less women behind the bar and on the line.

Zero transparency, no resources/information sharing.

More experience/knowledge/efficiency not leading to an equal occurrence of internal promotions for BIPOC or females (or LGBTQ & especially any who sit at the intersection of those) as compared to white males. White male managers will almost always choose white male workers for those roles regardless of qualifications. The white women who do make it to management feel a compulsion to treat white women how they were treated in their coming-up—horribly, and others even worse. Both white men and white women will ignore or even actively try to "force-quit" workers who are not white, or are otherwise marginalized (and therefore too much potential trouble).

Having high expectations but not coaching/training your staff. Reporting in bad faith re: jr staff.

Not creating ways to move up in the business yet capitalizing on #diversity in media comms.

How do workers benefit from variable hours? And how are they harmed?

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Flexibility to get errands done, but zero stability to plan for the future (like therapy or doctors appointments).

Con: can never plan more than a couple days in advance, lack of stability.

Pros: errands in off hours, time to go to the doctor or do other daytime only necessities.

Like things being quiet when I'm free. Hate that I never see friends.

This works against anyone with a family.

When it's done right it provides flexibility for personal life. Done wrong you get shift work disorder.

Good: can have flexible sched. Bad: No end in sight for shifts since the hours are so flexible.

I think variable hours are good for people who don't rely on consistent income. That's it.

They're esp good for musicians/artists w/ a lot of requests off & would lose shifts.

Benefitted: able to run errands, some time after or before for groceries etc. Harmed: sleep/eating schedule doesn't exist, getting off at later hours often encourages going to bar, often feel like you wake up to go to work.

How has this industry benefitted from allowing toxic chef behavior to thrive?

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Supports the cult of personality/celebrity that people (men) are tortured geniuses.

It hasn't. But I'm sure profits are made @ the expense of wellbeing, being unsafe to speak up...

Take our frustrations out on each other rather than the shitty customer who caused it.

Avoids conflict and maintains the status quo—real change is hard work, not worth the effort to some.

It's abuse. The abused over achieves and over works and over extends themselves to try and make their abuser happier/nice, instead of demanding better pay/environment.

Keeps employees too scared to ask for anything.

Not holding accountable = not needing to replace abusive management level employees.

Submissive (& scared) workers are easier to exploit.

It allows for racism, misogyny and ableism to thrive under the guise of industry norms.

Exploiting human beings' sense of worth to justify low wages.

Maintaining the business as usual. It's pretty brutal.

The industry doesn't benefit. It normalizes verbal abuse in particular.

When calling off sick do you feel bad and why?

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Used to! Because it felt like they needed me for it to run smoothly. Changed jobs. Now it's more understanding. Cause COVID & it's a corporate place.

Someone else who is already at capacity has to do extra work.

Years of hearing people say things along the lines of "they're probably not even sick" has me doubting if I am actually sick enough.

I used to. I was made to feel like I'm screwing over the restaurant by trying to take care of my health.

Fear of rejection. Being told or having people think I'm not good enough or a team player.

Yes, because I know what it's like when my coworkers don't/can't show up.

Yes because I know when I get back things won't have gotten done.

Yes because my tasks won't be done when I come in after I'm better.

Always always always because I have been conditioned to.

YES I know how stretched thin everyone already is even without an additional absence.

Yes because you know other people have to work harder in your team.

Nope. I feel relief.

Ppl not believing you're sick, putting the burden of more work on ppl, no PTO.

I used to. Also, I would be paranoid that someone knew. Learned to let that go.

I should have taken the day off when the doctor's office called and told me I had precancerous cells, but so much pressure to be there for my team.

I don't remember the last time I called in sick except for when I had a broken ankle. Maybe 2017 — wasn't physically ill but did have a nervous breakdown.

My job can technically be done remotely so I feel like I can't call in sick and have never done it.

Chronic illness means ppl always perceived me as doing it "too much."

How could we change guests' experience to better accommodate workers?

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Enforcing closing times. Maybe even do a 15min last call for food as well as drinks. BOH and FOH are human too and deserve to go home after a hard day.

You can't always have exactly what you want. The space is ours and what we have to offer is what we have.

Kitchen last calls.

Smaller more consistent menus (more options isn't always better) with a minimalist seasonal menu.

We want to go home early! Short work hours but more wages!

Gotta start changing the "customer is always right" mentality. We are the food experts, trust us the same way you would an expert in any other field.

Arrange with rests' neighbors if you don't have an accessible washroom to use theirs too.

Table QR codes for menu easy accessibility c/o many apps that help with different needs.

Not be open 7 days a week all day.

Change expectations. They are not always right. While it is good to make sure that they have a great experience, it shouldn't be at the employee's expense. Respecting staff is important.

Treat the experience (reciprocally) as if they are a guest at our own home. As in, I want to ensure that they are happy, comfortable, welcomed, safe, etc.

Also, unrelated but keeping the water topped up! Less hangover = better experience.

Also (haha sorry) safer spaces policies are really great for setting collective expectations.

Not allowing massive parties/volume to overwhelm the kitchen & staff by pairing down.

What types of emotional labor go into the work you do?

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Checking in with coworkers when they're in the weeds. Being the "calm" one when there's drama.

Staying calm when coworkers are getting flustered/short tempered so as to not escalate things.

Patience and deescalation.

As a femme person, lots of things. Shaping myself into something that will be taken seriously but not perceived as unemployable, someone who can hold their own but still be gentle/kind. Constantly stressing about how I come off to others without taking up space. The labor is constant and not reciprocal and feels unshouldered by men.

Managing my white coworkers' feelings when I experience racism.

Knowledge being ignored due to seniority & the pure fact I'm female.

Staying positive and fun. Being the "good vibes" person is not as easy as it seems.

Being the "employee of the year" for doing the work everyone else should be.

Communicating that our team lacks the tools we need to be successful due to ineffective leadership in my department.

Navigating around the chefs' moods.

Being the go-to injury carer cause all the guys in the kitchen "don't like blood."

Just keeping it together. Period.

Being the vocal advocate for my coworkers regarding wage/mistreatment.

Receiving people's anger/entitlement; colleagues clashing, personalities and work styles.

Having to hold in my anger and frustration without an outlet to express it at work.

Problem solving when others panic.

Taking on emotional baggage from mgmt or abuse from guests and being unable to relieve that stress until the end of the night or when I get home. = alcholism

Anticipating/managing needs/energy of guests, coworkers, mgmt, etc. aka higher vigilance.

Managing the emotional responses to fair requests from burnt out managers and owners.

Supporting coworkers' anger towards the boss to make strike happen in the future.

As a manager, learning to flip personality, switch with all 43 of my staff BOH and FOH.

Trying to support everyone all the time.

Ensuring the staff feels dignified and respected (by clientele) in the work they do.

Supporting/carrying all the newbies b/c I'm the only 1 left after all the turnover and we still need to complete the same amount of work in the same amount of time.

Managing emotions of chefs/sous chefs. Finding delicate ways to coax owners into pro-employee practices. Keeping my team uplifted and motivated. Managing guests' expectations and talking them down when they're not met.

Male coworkers asking why I look angry all the time. Expecting me to be cheerful and friendly with them.

How does gender play a role in your workplace?

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I work in a predominantly female kitchen and it rocks.

How much time do you have? It's huge. I think of every person who looks at me and asks to see the "chef."

Women are often dismissed no matter their experience or the situation.

Every time someone asks to see the manager and I'm like it's me and they look around.

The number of times I have to repeat myself before my male superiors listen whether it's a fact, a plan, or asking them to do something.

As a female there is little room for error, I feel like I have to be perfect to be respected.

Guys are afraid to say the wrong thing around me so they act pretty fake and it's obvi.

How do you feel about uniforms?

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Depends on whose paying for them and if they're flattering/comfortable.

Such an antiquated way of stripping identity from people.

I love not having to decide what to wear. But I loathe being told down to the color of sock (let me pick!).

Hate em bc they inevitably leave some identity/body type out, "dress code" slightly better.

I hate them. Especially if we have to pay for them/upkeep.

But also hate when they say wear anything but then discriminate body types wearing the same thing.

It should just be "all black everything." Super easy to clean and hides stains.

They should be abolished. A guideline on how to dress is ok but like... let people be themselves.

Hate them!

HATE.

Chef coats are notoriously too hot and shit quality, only given a couple, expected to wash.

Depends on if they're comfortable and cute enough.

Grateful I don't have to wear one.

Most of them are uncomfortable or impractical for the work we do.

And dress codes are notoriously sexist, racist, and ignore many types of bodies.

Whenever I had to wear fancy uniforms, I've been serving guests in a v casual dress, so y?

I like them because I don't like wearing my "real clothes" to work but prefer a general guideline. Something like "wear a black blouse and black pants or wear a blue suit."

Company issued uniforms suck — and if your company requires them you better provide them for free.

I hate when I have to buy a specific vest or whatever and it's $90 coming out of my first check.

Black pants/black shirt, easy upkeep, people can find a size/style/price that works for them.

Uniforms (employer-provided) make life a little easier.

What types of learning do you benefit most from in the workplace?

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In-person training, consistent check ins/reinforcing standards.

Hands-on training. I can't focus by just watching someone else do thing.

Paper resources that I can access on my own time! Esp menu specific/dietary info.

Hands on learning. Also, opportunity for off-site learning from purveyors/suppliers etc.

There needs to be supervisor/manager training. Someone may be good at their job, but not at managing people/personalities which is important.

Also being able to have an environment safe for neurodivergent people.

Menu tasting!!! I need to see and taste to sell! Details resources I can access easily.

Hands on learning, I don't do well just being told or watching. I need to actually practice myself.

Tasting is definitely the best way to learn coupled with taking notes/a method that works best for you.

In person and tasting.

Mgr perspective- support from GM/Owners to have time to actually meaningfully train. It's legit my fav part of my job/something I HATED not having when I was hourly. But often I don't have the time and resources to do it well.

In-person training FOR SURE.

Hands-on. Show instead of tell.

Hands-on learning and explaining the "why" of shared systems.

Regular tastings! Informative and delicious.

Any kind with follow-through, don't just throw me to the wolves.

How are you feeling with restrictions lifted?

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So uncomfortable.

Overwhelmed. We went 0-60 & there's been no talk of variants or non vaxed people at work.

Stressed.

Overwhelmed from going from to-go orders to everyone and their mamma dining.

Definitely not the good feelings they want me to have.

GREAT!

Slapped in the face. Followed all the rules for over a year just for them to say fuck it.

Zero consideration or conversations about unvaxxed people who don't have a choice.

We polled the team- FOH still masking for a while yet, BOH unmask if vaxxed.

"Honor system" vax status for customers, people were nasty when we tried to still require.

Not really ok. Most places are going by the "honor system" and aren't checking if people are vaxed.

Most people (including a coworker of mine) don't honor the honor system.

I feel good knowing I'm vaccinated, still fearing for my children.

Ok on the patio. Indoors is risky with Delta rising. Wish our Govt waited longer to reopen dining.

Hasn't happened here quite yet but I am nervous/anxious/excited and preemptively tired.

It's going to be hard to turn off the instincts I've made in the past year. We had to be so vigilant.

Like I still need a mask.

Like white people feel elitist and they never have to wear a mask again.

It makes me sick how people are treating the past year like an inconvenience to their "normal" lives.

Tired.

Confused.

Our whole team is vaccinated so I feel pretty good and also we have to trust why we got it.

Happy but hesitant.

Like all the disability justice convos at the beginning of the pandemic went out the window.

At the beginning of the pandemic "we're all so connected with this struggle." now ppl getting access to vaccines forgot service workers don't get benefits.

So many service workers are undocumented and have no safety net.

AZ governor banned business from requiring vaccines + masks so not great.

Overwhelmed.

Only 45% of Philly is actually vaxxed & I don't trust maskless morons so I'll be MASKED UP.

ANXIOUS AF.

I'm not undocumented but currently somewhat due to immigration delays in Canada. I have no valid health card (so unsure if I'll be able to access healthcare or get proof of vaccination card.) I have no work permit while I wait for a new one, and when I do mine is tied to the business I work for. So if anything bad happens I am beholden to my employer (who is being really unsupportive atm). It's incredibly stressful and so disheartening and only a drop in the ocean compared to undocumented folks.

I have no idea but I'm secretly terrified.

Not ready yet.

DISAPPOINTED.

When have you encountered mental health crises or incidents in the hospitality industry? Did you feel you had the tools to intervene?

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Nop.

I'll just say that bereavement pay should be a law.

When your managers and owners are incompetent or just do not care.

I've seen several panic attacks.

On the way out of pandemic—a ton of pressure to make the margins.

(1) Everyone was calling out and us salary people had to fill several roles.

(2) A few times I was making sandwiches, expo'ing and pulling and shaking fries. And I'm a GM.

Warlord was sooo toxic. Trevor the chef did terrible things to his staff.

Yeah you watch a coworker start to decline and tell the owner/manager and they blow it off...

Good managers were understanding but sadly exclusion of the rule.

Let's just say that HR is not your friend, asking for help got me 86'd and blacklisted.

I was fired from two different jobs because my performance "declined"...

...while my teenage daughter was going through mental breakdowns.

I was clearly not myself, the first job knew the second didn't but also never asked what was going on 🤷🏻‍♀️

Brushed over/ignored substance use issues. Bad for the individual, compounds on team.

What impact or effects does working in hospitality have on you?

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Stifles my creativity, doesn't leave me with enough personal time 2 enjoy life outside of work.

Honestly has led me much further left and encouraged me to advocate for myself/others !!

But also ... body hurts ... all the time ...

It's really hard to be physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy and work in hospitality.

Not having health insurance provided for—but then expected to show up fully functional.

I need to recover physically from my 9h shifts waiting on 60/80 people...

...without breaks, and I am way less social on my days off because I need quiet time...

...and interacting with people feels like a chore.

I have an injury from work that I'll now have to navigate for the rest of my life.

At my old place I would want to be left alone. Now, I'm happy to socialize.

It's incredibly dehumanizing. People feel entitled to every part of you.

AND, at times, I see the best in people. I get to connect when people choose kindness +amp; grace.

Love it but is the least disability friendly and least understanding career path. Had to leave 😢

It allows me enough flexibility to raise my family. But, I'm not the breadwinner, not even close.

Feels like a passion project. Mental/financial struggles. But I wouldn't want anything else.

Dehydrated, lifeless, & drained.

I put other people's needs before my own by default. Working on that though!

A chronic pain condition, and an inability to be fined "skilled" labor jobs (aka corporate jobs).

The inability to practise healthy routines (eating, sleeping, exercising, socializing).

No weekends... means no social life.

When you work for cult mentality places like Warlord you forget your self worth.

How do people outside of the hospitality industry view your profession?

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A job for kids.

"Not a real job."

Easy.

Not as important.

I feel like some customers either pity and/or look at us like lower-class citizens.

We're just there to serve them. They don't care about us.

"Omg is it really like The Bear?"

Like it's only something I do for fun.

As a phase. It's not a phase, it was never a phase.

Not respectable, poor and menial.

"So fun!" 😵‍💫

Most seem to view me as an NPC otherwise it's a temp job or unskilled labour.

Uneducated.

There are people who will think of you as talented but those same people will look down on people who do the same thing you do.....but in different circumstances (high end restaurants vs. grocery stores). Cooking food is cooking food is cooking food. We all deserve respect for providing food for people who don't know how to or don't want to cook for themselves.

That it takes no skill to be a server. It falls into the ven diagram of unpaid labor/skills that women do.

A hobby.

They see you as an anomaly... js.

My neighbor (same building/similar income) said it was "cute."

Unintelligent/unschooled lower class/immigrants here to serve those who have "real jobs."

What makes a good manager?

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Love.

Listens to employees.

Being able to hear feedback or constructive criticism from workers and not get defensive.

Someone who RESPECTS YOU AS A HUMAN BEING.

Communication. Can give you feedback (esp. bad feedback) and you still walk out feeling supported.

Empathy and humility. Too many egotistical and incompetent managers!

Being a leader and protecting your staff.

Kindness. Not being nice but being kind!!!

Follows labor laws and cares about employees.

Empathy. The kind where they know every position they are managing back and forth.

Proactive instead of reactive leadership, also thinking ahead, also also developing employees' skills.

One that works for the employees and not the boss.

Someone who believes you over the customers.

Empathy, accountability, respecting of your time and who you are outside of work.

Not forgetting where they started, and gatekeeping the secrets of for progression.

Investing in your team.

Someone whose committed to the liberation of BIPOC & the working class.

What are some red flags you look out for in new hospitality spaces or in interviews?

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"We're family here."

No transparency with tip out. Especially noticeable frustration from mgmt re: $.

Constantly hiring = high staff turnover.

Immediate start date, no talk of benefits like insurance.

High staff turnover.

Unpaid stages.

Compensation confidentiality agreements in handbook.

No HR! Even tho HR protects the biz, usually less harm happens when it's present.

First time owner opening a new restaurant.

No bar manager but head bartender who is in the limbo of responsibilities with no 💰/hr.

Only male management.

Stories of retaliation when ask questions about tips.

Too many pizza parties 😂

All white FOH.

Private listings.

The owner not being present.

Can you start today?

"What's your marital status, are you planning on having kids soon or at all?"

Not showing up on time/or at all! I walked out once because she was a half hour late.

Tips, tricks, and words of advice for non-men working in male dominated spaces like kitchens and bars?

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If anyone yells I just walk away. We can talk when you calm down. Set your boundaries early!

Be a bitch and always make them make you food! 🥰🫡😋

Men are gonna hate you regardless of how "chill" you are. Might as well be assertive.

Any signs of not communicating properly are called out immediately.

Don't. Find spaces that actively include and protect women or you will always be disposable.

TAKE NO BULLSHIT AND BE KIND.

Pay attention. There's a reason there aren't many women there even if they aren't aware of it.

Have you worked at a place that closed abruptly? How did it affect you?

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I just got hired and left my last job and two weeks later they closed. I felt really sad and lost.

Local Foods closed their retail exactly like this and screwed all their workers over.

Still in therapy processing the loss. Betrayal is a big word that comes to mind.

Yes.

It made me very angry and depressed and it took me years to recover.

What are ways the industry has dehumanized you?

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Not allowing me to eat or drink water in the sight of guests.

Not giving PTO. How are we supposed to rest without going broke?

Using a separate elevator exclusively for staff.

Expecting you to check your personal hardships "at the door."

Expected to still be nice to drunk men sexually harassing me.

Got fired when I was in rehab.

Not allowing me to go to the bathroom to change my tampon!

Acting like voicing your needs is you being a bad/"difficult" employee.

Expecting a no-break, no water, no food shift as the norm.

In any other field if I worked 10 years I'd be a master. In food I'm just not taken seriously.

Implying that on a day I was having car trouble, instead of calling out 1 day to get my car fixed so that it was permanently usable, I should've put the repair off and taken over $70 in Ubers to get to a brunch shift where I only regularly made $50 because "this is a family and if family members can't count on us what are we really worth?" This would also have put me in a position where I had to Uber ($$$$) to work every day for a week before I had a day off to get it fixed. I had never called out before.

Feeling useless cause they always ask for more :(

Bosses insisting they are not racist or do not have unconscious bias; 1/2

Failing to recognize white privilege; not taking actionable steps to reflect on privilege 2/2.

Not allowing me to run to the bathroom during service.

Adding new tasks without any further compensation. Embracing a hustle culture.

Asking for a break to take care of your period but are denied. So you bleed out on the line. Smdh.

Using a separate (disgusting) bathroom away from guests.

AS LONG AS I AIN'T GOT NOTHING ON THE GRILL BURNING MY ASS IS LEAVING TO CHANGE MY TAMPON. This is nuts. 😞

Telling me I need to tell managers or other staff if I'm going to use the bathroom.

Telling me to go faster when we are going as humanly fast as we can. All for shitty hot chicken in LA.

Misogyny.

ABSOLUTELY THE FUCK NOT. I am never bleeding, nor pissing, nor shitting on myself for a paycheck.

What are the unspoken rules in your workplace? How do they impact you?

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Don't ask permission, ask forgiveness (the idea that the boss won't take your ideas).

Giving manager feedback or providing insight on service can result in retaliation.

Don't tell anyone you're also having sex with the boss.

You are a second class citizen to customers.

Not a rule but we all think the owners are total tool douche bags.

Never say anything negative about the owners, even if you are just stating a fact or a factual observation. I don't trust anyone I work with.

Don't be a pussy/little bitch. Makes it hard to ask for help. The toxic masculinity 😩

Straight femme women are allowed to pass off work to queer women and NBs.

"Tips before respect." Even if a client was abusive. This was actually hell.

If you're brown you'll have to say an idea (same one a yt person has) 3x before it gets heard.

If you're brown, you're BOH.

Nepotism. If you're not the favorite server(s) you're cut first. Including all SA/support.

Certain coworkers don't have to pull their weight. I have to pull their weight and mine 🙃

The bosses have different standards for everyone and we aren't treated fairly.

How has Palestine come up in your workplace?

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Mgmt and coworkers getting upset I brought it up bc they "don't want to think about it."

Manager said "there is Hamas protest." all the time.

Somewhat positively, allowing later in times to attend protests.

It hasn't. And that is super messed up. They don't want to hear about it.

Closed one day for global strike.

It's the one political conversation they downplay cause "it's too complicated."

During TCI training. It's inappropriate when working with at risk youth.

To bring up divisive topics that can create violence among the participants.

When I asked the crew if they wanted to strike for Palestine an employee responded ...

FOH folks nervous about business being vocal pro-P.

I've gotten positive feedback from guests about the 🇵🇸 pin I wear.

Anything you'd like to tell your boss?

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Bosses aren't absolved of accountability.

Success is measured by so many other metrics than money.

My greatest wish that I write in my manifestation journal is being able to quit this job.

It's almost busy season, I will seek improvements either here or somewhere else.

I need money 🤑

Never forget that you wouldn't be here without your staff.

Please listen to me when I tell you there's a problem instead of ignoring me and then tagging me in an email later talking abt the problem as if u discovered it just now.

The problem isn't work ethic, the problem IS compensation.

I think I said enough in my Eater interviews.

Chasing Michelin/Beard awards is not more important than the well being of your staff.

I know what I'm doing!!!

Your ego is not more important than my humanity.

Stop pretending that you working and actually do some work.

It's time to retire.

Why are you not de-escalating the guests when they complain about prices?

I'm a hospitality professional, of course I...

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Make annoying tourists take a shot of Malort.

Am way2 hyper focused on my checks so I can make sure I'm getting EVERY CENT I'M OWED.

Can't wake up before noon.

Make significantly less than FOH but work more hours, still can't afford health insurance.

Wipe the bathroom countertop before I exit.

...cried in the walk-in before!

Argue about who goes first. After you! No no, after you! I insist!

Haven't eaten yet today.

Can't afford the restaurant I work at.

I wake up before my alarm because of my anxiety of work.

Always apologizing to FOH workers on my day off when I need something.

Fucking hate everyone.

Can't enjoy myself when I'm dining out because I'm too busy criticizing the service.

Take care of everyone else before I take care of myself.

Say yes chef when my friends ask me if I can do them a favour.

Comment on any little inter-staff drama I'm picking up on. I'm fun to dine with.

Get excited when my favorite workers are scheduled with me.

Dates other service industry people hoping this time they won't be assholes 😂

Eat over trash cans and sinks.

Have no Tupperware, only delis.

Eat my food way too quickly even when I'm at home.

Only drink out of delis at home.

Befriend the kitchen in the hopes of free fries.

Forgot to fire that table's food.

Have you experienced wage theft in hospitality?

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Yes. And if you answered no go relook at your paystubs. Keep track of tips and hours.

Yes—managers were skimming off the top cash tips at the end the night...

100 percent.

I'm currently at a restaurant that auto takes out .5h breaks even if we don't take them.

Owner labeled a mngr as "flex" and tipped them out. Mgmt can't be in the tip pool. 1/2

Happy ending, an employee sued and won. 2/2

Yes, in many ways. % of my gratuity being taken by owner to pay Square fees, mandatory "uniform fee," etc.

YES—mgmt changing hours, skimming tips, expecting free labor, etc.

Would have unpaid breaks deducted regardless of whether or not I took one 🫠

Yes: owners taking tips, unpaid stages, being forced to pay for "family meal."

Not being scheduled enough time to open, not being paid to complete mandatory tests.

A certain F&B group now requires a min 5day/50hr work week for salaried managers. 1/1

With the expectation that it may exceed 50hrs and 5 days with no OT.

Yes! Found out owner adjusted everyone's in/out times retroactively.

Shitty thing is, we've actually got decent managers. 1/3

I happily shared my tips w my trainee because training pay wasn't enough.

I feel like that is the standard for most salaried managers in the industry now. I've worked in LA, San Diego and Chicago as a manager and it's just long hours. I had a place in San Diego that "freaked the numbers" so I had to go into overtime to reach my salary goal. It was like $18 an hour and once I went into overtime that's how I was able to make my salary.

When I was a green GM I was trained to trim the punch in 5 min here, 10 min there.

To meet my labour costs.

Yes, and a co-worker reported (and we protected their ID) and we all got paid out.

Is being forced to pay for family legal?

This was something that happened at Hampton Social in Skokie—one chef would charge, but it's in the budget to have a family meal and other chefs would cook accordingly. This industry has some fools giving us a bad name.

What's 1 thing you want your boss to know?

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I'm working through chronic pain daily & trying to keep up with the simplest of tasks.

They are replaceable 😇

Managers can do those pointless tasks that are delegated to hourly workers 👀

Physically disabled people have a place in the kitchen & hospitality industry.

You just a manager, stop protecting only the business.

You're doing too much. Delegate the easy things so you can tackle the hard ones.

Also, most of us aren't stupid.

We can see you pretending to be busy yet doing nothing. You're just in the way.

We're done w/ mental health *awareness*, we need paid time off to care for ourselves.

Strong leaders are transactional and transformative, do both.

How does classism show up in hospitality spaces?

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Menus with no prices listed online.

Serving high quality food to guests, while employees get low quality, cheap food. Or (1)

Sometimes not even being able to stop for the sake of the guests and a smooth service (2)

The manner in which the customer hands you their credit card.

No respect or courtesy from guests whatsoever.

White managers being paid more than brown managers.

Dress codes.

The use of separate elevators or entrances for staff and for guests, even during closed hrs.

Guest bathrooms vs employee bathrooms that are in the same room as the septic tank.

What are your thoughts on Chicago abolishing the subminimum tipped wage?

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Lot's of other states have done this! It's good for everybody that labors.

Increases state average salaries at a corporate level too! Rising tides.

I'm in restaurant industry because tips help surviving.

At the restaurant I work, they're going to use subminimum tipping as excuse to ✂️ labor.

Might prevent over staffing the lower wage employees but reduce tips?

ASAP.

The restaurant biz model is broken, the sooner the industry pays real wages, the better.

I fear it'll be used to abolish tipping and my overall wage will drop tremendously.

How do hospitality spaces reinforce racism?

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"Punny" cocktail and dish names are rampant with AAVE and Asian appropriative terms.

Items based on tired racial stereotypes instead of in-depth research and practice/training.

FOH being all white and BOH being majority nonwhite.

Tipping culture.

GM saying that we need to have more "attractive" hostess and bartender... disgusting.

By staying silent.

By defending the indefensible (owners and managers).

Brown people do the work (get no credit). European/white chef name on the menu/articles, etc.

The tipping system.

Lazy food & Bev pairings that generalize a whole continent or country's cuisine.

If Black femme disagree or speak up they are quickly labeled "angry Black woman."

Putting BIPOCs in mgmt only to open them up to more scrutiny.

FOH is mostly white and Latino (and a lot of them are support staff).

White chef owners co-opting global cuisine.

The hierarchy of the kitchen & FOH.

Only white in more managerial roles. Not a single white in blue collar role. All people of colour.

FOH "appearance policies" (tend to not be supportive of Black hairstyles).

By keeping white people, mostly men, in the FOH & management positions!

How do hospitality spaces uphold ableism?

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The fact that I've never worked with a visibly disabled person.

The "stylish" chairs are AWFUL and uncomfortable for anyone who isn't thin & able-bodied.

No chairs/sitting for employees in guest-facing areas/elevator usage limited to guests only.

They treat every accommodation for a guest as an opportunity to "go the extra..."

...inconvenient.

I was fired literal days after asking for ADA accommodations.

Not acknowledging chronic illness, shaming chronic illness.

Being expected to stand for sometimes 12 hrs at a time.

In the job post itself—must be able to lift 50 lbs, stand for 12+ hours, everyone accepts it.

How is sexism upheld in hospitality spaces?

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Boys club.

Wmn are passed over for upper mgmt roles & promotions, clueless men are handed them.

Human reactions are handled differently depending on whether you are a man or...

...a woman. Men can throw a full on tantrum and totally fly under the radar while women...

...would be told to hold it together simply for being a bit flustered or not smiling.

For starters, I've worked in a bar that started allowing female bartenders in ✨️2017✨️

I think the real question is how do you stop it.

Femme line cooks usually sent to garmo or pastry.

Management not believing harassment claims.

Being asked when my women coworkers plan on getting pregnant by higher ups.

Letting people get groped by customers and coworkers.

The amount of emotional labor women have to do to navigate coworkers' emotions and lack of coping mechanisms.

Assuming host is a women's job also, devaluing host/maître d's by calling them hostess.

Positions and titles manner, so gendering a role is so unnecessary.

The stark gender divide between FOH and BOH.

Letting a dude go home early bc headache meanwhile I just birthed a blood clot in my pants.

Alcohol overuse.

Letting men gossip about femme coworkers and taking it as facts.

Wage gaps for all women, but especially women of color.

Men are in charge, they support each other, refuse to listen to anyone else.

Does hospitality work most impact you physically, emotionally, mentally, other?

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All of that. This box is too small to say everything.

I would say emotionally, which then leads to physical/mental impact. It's all connected.

All the above which is why I have a therapist, psychiatrist, physical therapist...etc.

All.

Physically and emotionally, at the end of my shifts I have nothing left.

Mentally which turns into physically.

Emotionally. Managing guests emotions, loud music, coworker relationships.

Just had a 2nd herniated disc surgery & about to have partial knee replacement so...

I'd say it has significantly impacted every single area of my life. Esp after 27 yrs.

Both but I feel emotionally is harder to recover from.

We have to pick one?

All of it at different level at different times. I've been out of BOH for a year and a half and I'm still reconciling several work habits I picked up in my office.

All the above, this job is not conducive to a healthy lifestyle.

Spiritually.

Mentally.

After now having gone through school and onto 10+ years in the industry, existentially?

Mental.

When I get home & lay in my bed, feet throbbing & mind racing I realize it's all of them.

All.

Does the expectation that you leave emotions at the door help or hurt?

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Hurt—we are all real humans with real, dynamic human experiences! Compassion is 🔑

It helps to keep a professional mindset, although it's not always possible, stay positive at best.

Hurt.

Both. It's not about you it's about the service but team morale is real.

This expectation is dehumanizing.

Both. Sometimes you need the distraction, sometimes it feels like you are forced to swallow it.

Hurt.

Hurt.

Hurts. Esp when the person telling you also screams at everyone at the kitchen.

Hurt.

Help—it's unfair to other employees to let things outside of work affect them as well.

I should clarify with the option of PTO when ur unable to leave emotions at the door.

Hurt.

Hospitality is an emotional act. Any managers who say this are assholes.

Absolutely fucking hurt. I'm a human not a robot 🤖

Hurt!!! How can we do emotional labor without our emotions????

Hurt 💯

I leave mine at the door because sometimes I welcome the distraction of work...

...bosses never apply what they preach because you know when they're in a bad mood.

Really seems you only have to ask this from others when you can't manage your own 🤔

Toxic. Outside of employment, the expectation to ignore your emotional state is abusive.

What are ways power and hierarchy are maintained in hospitality spaces?

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The slavish devotion the brigade system.

When your boss tells you not to talk about pay, even tho that's illegal 👀

Throwing female line cooks on garmo bc they're ✨️ girls ✨️

Right now the biggest bully wins unfortunately.

Not hiring women, POC into higher positions other then cooks, or floor managers.

No shift break.

Restaurants—and hospitality more broadly—are the leading edge of class warfare.

Relegating people when they speak up. I was a GM yet they threw me on the line.

Getting yelled at for arriving on time instead of intuiting to arrive early.

Point system for tipping FOH staff.

Not giving raises.

FOH being paid tips and earning more than the BOH in half the amount of time worked.

Managers not reporting harassment cases brought by staff.

FOH point system, managers feel like they're being fair w/o actual equity/transparency.

Gatekeeping. Nepotism and favoritism.

Micromanagement removing room for independence and critical thought.

BOH: What issues about your work would you like discussed more?

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Holy crap, the misogyny towards femme BOH—I could do a TED talk.

How stress affects your physical health.

BOH vs FOH—it's so toxic.

Ok specifically the difference in standards between FOH and BOH at the same jobs. But also BOH in the different levels of dining. I could go on for hours about the gendered codes though tbh across the board in the industry.

Misogyny. Working for managers who never wanted to be or care to be managers.

Work life balance.

The toxic mentality that if you are not suffering for your work then you are not doing enough.

Why do you hate making staff meal so much??

Substance abuse—we lose so many amazing folks to it & still folks don't question drugs on the line.

That you deserve to be yelled at because that's how you'll learn.

That asking questions does not make you less valuable or annoying.

That teaching w/ empathy & understanding will be far more impactful than yelling & berating.

That how could we apply horizontal hierarchy in the kitchen as a team?

"Language barriers"—if folk can travel across a border/continent, pick up English. You can learn their language.

Which position in a hospitality space was the hardest for you?

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Pastry cook at Nico Osteria. Never been as poor, overworked, exhausted, and miserable since.

Being "in charge" when I was present but no actual work support behind it (or pay raise).

Hosting. People have a special kind of impatience towards hosts I tell you.

Prep sous—I had to get in two hours before I was allowed to clock in because of 1/2

The volume of work and I only had a third of a table for 150+ covers nightly. In addition to 2/3

In addition to work environment being massively toxic at s.k.y 3/3.

Inside expo. Shitty attitude FOH & crabby BOH all mad at you & you caught in the middle 🥲

Host. Especially when they didn't want "n-bomb" or "f*gs" (Detroit in the 2000s).

Wine steward.

Line cook. At every place I've ever worked.

Working for Jared of Budlong wasn't the hardest but it was ridiculous. He's a douche.

Barista.

Sauté by yourself on a weekend night is also what nightmares are made of 💀

Expo.

Any time I worked for straight cis white men who are obvi alcoholics including now.

Food running. Getting screamed at by chef for something insane and having to present a dish right after.

Working for the infamous exec at Publican—most inhumane person. Lots to be said about it.

Manager at One Off. The CEO truly believed servers/bartenders were overpaid.

I was treated worse in my few days hosting than in years as bartender and manager.

Hosting.

Management—you have to stand between staff needs and ownership's lack of care for 0$.

Hosting. People were mad at me all the time, from the guests to the servers, and it's low pay.

Hosting!! Doing much of managers job with no power/respect & awful customer intcts.

Manager of rooftop pool bar at a hotel.

Server. Everyone hates you. Too many expectations and no respect.

Lead Bartender. Felt like Bar Manager with less office time & less pay.

Alinea. It's not even close. Pure evil.

Lead Host for white tablecloth. Lots of screaming & threats because you are overbooked.

Any proximity to Jen, Frontera's "HR & director of ops" iykyk. She'll do u dirty, man.

Executive Chef.

Food runner.

Host.

Serving. There's some kind of weird power dynamic flux when you bartend—people are nicer.

GM.

Being a CDC @ $15/hr.

I strongly suggest this person take 30 seconds to report this to the Federal DOL along with any evidence (old texts, calendar, anything). They will look into it and they will get their money back.

Lead anything. Lead line cook being the worst because no tip pool. 1/?

Lead bartender is close because it was basically bar manager 2/?

Restaurant couldn't afford another manager's salary 3/3

Which would've been a pay cut 4/4

Have you experienced backlash or retaliation at work for speaking up?

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1000%—multiple locations/restaurant groups.

I requested sensitivity training. My manager left up an email outlining how to fire me for 1/2

False accusations. It said to tell me it was due to lack of table touching... 2/2

I was abused by a chef and the owner told me to calm down, it's a kitchen. I didn't get the promotion.

I was docked 13k off of my salary. (I've been paid that with an apology recently. 7mo overdue.)

A man got in my face and was screaming violent threats to me in front of another manager (I was also a manager) and a few line cooks. I left because I felt so unsafe and they told me they'd fire him "if I wanted them to"—but we were so understaffed and everyone was so tired/burnt out they'd be really disappointed. He got to keep his job a few more weeks until he threatened the owner. They were very vocal about how "disappointed in me" they were for walking out that day and weren't sure I should get to keep my job.

Of course. Hours cut, given non-premium shifts after working Friday and Saturday night for a year.

Transferred to the least busy, fast-casual location in a restaurant group for reporting abuse by manager.

Yep!! Sent home without pay.

Yes, and I was fired for it during the start of COVID.

Definitely.

The Bristol / B Hospitality—ask anyone.

I voiced concerns on how we weren't following COVID protocol and was laid off.

S.K.Y.—among many other things they retaliated financially even after employees left.

I was told, "Well that's the industry and if you don't like it, maybe it's not for you."

Can confirm the Bristol & B Hospitality are terrible, luckily the Bristol closed on January 1. The Goat Group / Boka is also terrible and ignored sexual assault claims because the person could "carry a lot of dishes at once."

When I did I was gaslit—"If it was so bad why didn't u make a scene in front of customers?"

I have received hate emails and still get bullying comments regularly.

B Hospitality is known for "breaking" their managers. The reason I left the restaurant industry.

I asked for ADA accommodations and was terminated for BS days later...

How do you reset after burnout?

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Turn off the world and focus on my hobbies!

Yoga. Bed. Being around loved ones. Baths. Meditation.

Rest, eat, listen to music, have a little dance party and talk to no one!

Veg out at home / ask my partner for alone time.

Epsom salt bath, skincare routine, THC, snacks, sleep.

Travel, try new hobbies, do nothing.

What personal boundaries do you struggle to maintain in your role?

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Maintaining my days off as my days off; not being the emotional dumping ground for coworkers.

Saying yes to everything.

How emotionally available I allow myself to be.

How do cultural or language barriers show up in your work? What support would help?

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Spanish speakers are treated like 2nd class citizens despite doing most of the hard work.

YT managers would rather force someone to translate for them than try 2 do it thmslvs.

I don't know Spanish and a lot of other staff are Spanish speakers so I can't interact much.

Allergies get missed because non-English speakers don't understand them. FOH catches it, but there's resentment or frustration when it has to be refired.

Free English classes and free ServSafe courses would help.

What's something you wish you knew before starting your first hospitality job?

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Someone's doo doo attitude has nothing to do with you?

That the industry is designed to be oppressive, to exploit and deplete workers.

The need to fortify myself when men yelled at me because I took it personally.

That the type of abuse I'm about to experience isn't OK and doesn't make me better.

Rich people expect hospitality and don't know to reciprocate it without spiral being involved.

Leaving it is really difficult.

How to manage my finances.

How easy is it to think you have to go with the "flow" (cycle of abuse to others/to one's own self).

What my health insurance is gonna look like.

That HR and management cares about the company, not you.

That I should listen to my body and speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed.

OMG, I missed the prompt but I wish I knew that I should save and document EVERYTHING. If I had a real record of times I've had tips and labor stolen from me, or if I had a real record of the abhorrent things that men in positions of power have said to me, I could be sitting on real lawsuit money right now.

What do you wish guests understood about your job?

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I literally have no control—prices, other guests, the menu, whatever their complaint.

I WANT to provide good service and food. I hate it just as much as them when things go wrong.

That we need their seats if they've stopped drinking. Campers cost us money.

That I serve too many people during a shift/too much happens on a given day for me to remember them if we didn't really have a fun or cool conversation for a while. I want to have meaningful and cool conversations with guests at work but I need them to also bring something unique to the conversation for us to connect. Also my work personality is fake, please stop coming up to me when I'm out in public and expecting me to be the same—you're not tipping me for those interactions!

I probably make more than you.

Expo is not cocktailing. We all have different jobs and can't just stop to get you a beer.

Impossible for me to make room for your table with three things in my hand for you.

If I don't remember your name after I meet you once, chances are I will never remember it, ever.

How much is out of your individual control as a worker.

That if they ask me to refire their eggs on a 400-cover brunch shift they gonna WAIT.

That their great night out is at the expense of cooks and servers that haven't been able to live that lifestyle because of their demand.

Just because you like to cook at home doesn't mean my job is always fun.

How much goes into it. It's not just a quick grocery trip & fun cooking, it's nonstop work/prep.

Also, it's not my job to make your girlfriend's birthday special. You shoulda done more. I'm not your secretary.

Cooking at home does not make you a chef.

That validating every decision they make isn't part of it.

Nothing is free in this world. Every little extra thing you ask for costs $$.

I am human!

As a manager—I am not their enemy.

I really wish people knew how much yelling there was—like even to this day, when men yell at me in any kind of context, I freeze because I'm trying to decide if I'm in fight or flight. It's brutal and it's hard and we're doing our absolute best to make sure you can have something nice.

Stacking plates is rarely helpful. Your fragrance overwhelms the dining room.

It is easily 100+ degrees in the summer and I am doing my absolute best.

Service is a real job.

Ur not the only person I'm making drinks for 🙃 I promise I will get 2 you, patience helps!

Also I'm not here to entertain you. Talk to your friend/s, tf?

My knee really fucking hurts, I'm emotionally supporting all of my coworkers, and I'm wearing a mask because everyone keeps getting COVID.

That a popup isn't "just a cute event" and can't wait to visit when you have a "real restaurant."

That closing means WE'RE CLOSED.

The list goes on! But since school is out for summer: I am not your child's babysitter.

That they mean nothing to me.

That I'm doing my best.

I'm here to provide a service, not to be a servant.

The masked face we put on, behind-the-scenes pressure.

It's not glamorous or what you see on TV. It's toxic and lots of BS is normalized. Be human.

Re: all these story replies... my current story showcasing a post about how it's not solely the service worker's job to provide hospitality. It's a two-way street. "People create their own experience" is something I am reminding myself a lot at work. I think food service and hospitality could be a realistic and fulfilling career choice (not a default, "unskilled" job) if people understood this concept.

THIS!!!!!! If you're sitting at the bar expecting me to talk to you all day, you're mistaken. I've got lots of stuff to do even if there's no one else sitting at the bar.

Thoughts on Chicago Restaurant Groups (Boka, 1off, Lettuce, etc.)

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It's been a few years since I worked for Lettuce but I loved them and the culture.

Seems 2b the only way to get health insurance as a cook. Weans out small businesses.

Their $ has brought some great talent to the city and opportunities for workers. Never have worked 4 them, have always worked small biz. Have heard questionable things.

They have all the money and power.

I've worked for several of them. Lots of thoughts.

Some are fantastic (Boka), some are hell (Alinea Group).

Not disability friendly. But then again 99% of restaurants in Chicago aren't accommodating.

Restaurant groups in any city are monopoly capitalism applied to the hospitality industry. Bad for everyone except shareholders and (maybe) top management. For example, in my city the largest restaurant group is moving to completely dominate the industry. They buy up all the talent, take up the best real estate, and co-opt the "buy local" mantra when they are really a huge hedge-fund-backed monster. Due to their near-monopoly, it is difficult to compete.

Worked for Boka and had mostly good experiences. Still some corporate bullshit but not a wild amount like I've heard from other groups. Restaurant groups or hotel chains are the only option I've found for decent healthcare as a trans person, no matter how much I'd rather work for small businesses or go out on my own, and they have more money for equipment and projects and raises 😢 It sucks but they're the most reliable jobs I've had.

Worked for Lettuce and they were actually pretty cool.

Elitist white restaurant groups always keeping minorities out of leadership ops.

One of them bought a new house from a very well-known baseball team owner while keeping skeleton crew.

The Stefani Group is the one I have the most trauma from. No benefits, "we're family" vibes while bullying.

Ballyhoo is trash. Overheard too many gross convos about employees from management.

Lettuce seemed to follow the trend: aggressive cis men in GM & EC roles while fems and queers were usually locked into hourly and FOH management. Lettuce is also slipping away from the family-focused group Rich Melman created. His sons prioritize profit and their "VIPs" (wannabe Chicago socialite friends) over staff well-being. His daughter Molly is very cool and understanding but she doesn't seem to carry as much weight. They have also made a terrible impression on the industry scene in Austin with Aba.

Alinea's "18% gratuity" covers $20/hr + health insurance for workers—FOH staff only splits anything beyond 18% (so 1% split if tip was 19%). Something worth thinking about when you realize splitting one table's tips between even a few FOH workers there would earn them more than $20/hr taxed.

As an ex LEYE, glad to be gone. Union busting is trained to managers, HR is dehumanizing, etc.

This is unrelated to the previous response! Tbh working for bigger groups has ended up providing me with more protections than working for ~local or even mid-sized groups (like Heisler lol). Smaller restaurant groups and one-off restaurants have paid me the shittiest while expecting the most emotional investment into their establishments. I don't want to work for corporations, but can't afford to not be provided healthcare or meaningful COVID relief 🙄

As a small restaurant owner I tend to agree. I always think about selling out for a bigger restaurant just so I can have the economy of scale to pay for those things for my employees without going broke myself.

Can second this. Was fired from a Ballyhoo restaurant for a BS reason days after requesting reasonable accommodations.

There was a sexual harassment incident while I was there (Ballyhoo) and the leadership was far more concerned with avoiding potential retaliation lawsuits than the well-being of the victim.

I was also fired from Ballyhoo for no stated reason. Just because! Management is terrible. They didn't care about COVID. I also saw two employees fired due to sexual harassment during my short time there.

Part 2 - Why did you quit your last hospitality job?

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Anti-blackness and misogynoir.

The most toxic work environment I've ever experienced.

Owners were greedy who would not give me a proper salary/benes for the amount of work.

Owners tried to force me to quit my other job, which was running a festival that I started.

Tip transparency.

Constantly micro-managed by owner after being hired to manage the business. 🙄

Low pay, rigid hours, workplace culture (!).

My body couldn't take it. Either could my soul!

Miscarriage in bathroom then back on the line, told I couldn't go home until "after the rush."

Coffee bar sold $50 choc bars yet paid under the table and misallocated tips.

My wife and I are going on vacation to visit my country and come back strong to start our own thing! 💪

They badly handled the Omicron outbreak and put folks at risk.

Overworked/underpaid. Was a manager, on call 24/7, was paid the same as the rest of the staff.

+When I asked for more $ they guilted/shamed me, increased my hours and responsibilities.

Paid more as an hourly supervisor + tips than as a salaried manager.

Our payday shifted every two weeks. Often with day of work missing from it.

Owners took cash tips for themselves from baristas 🫠

Management did not want to address abusive management because it was "inconvenient."

Toxic + exploitative owner management.

Left the industry entirely because toxic owner/mgmt + high emotional stress is the norm.

Toxic management.

Not respected, not valued.

How do you know when you are experiencing burnout?

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I'm in it now; I'm constantly feeling overwhelmed, and rarely able to recharge despite sleep.

I start to micro manage each minute and absolutely lose it over 5 min delays.

Easily irritable & small stuff I normally let slide off my back make me want to cry or scream.

Irritability.

I always ALWAYS get a post nasal drip and it hits me like a train.

Feeling like I can never recover, even with time off.

Also just constant exhaustion despite how early I go to bed.

I hate the things I normally love.

I can't keep the "mask" up—I get very short with my staff and even guests.

When it feels like all I can do is think + fret about work; I can't give energy to anything else.

Losing interest in the work, and other things. Burnout often coincides w/ depression for me.

Hard to concentrate. Dread going to work. Physical issues.

When you wake up and hate your life.

When everything is overwhelming.

When you work 40 hours a week and still live paycheck to paycheck.

Becoming zoned out or frozen b.c. I'm overwhelmed by too many tasks; it is daunting.

I'm not sure that I know what it's like not to.

No idea. Would love to know though because working in hospo SO many people are burnout and don't know.

Not doing anything meaningful at home/in my free time, not eating well or enough.

Overly emotional at work.

When I start to actually dread coming into work on the daily. 😳

Apathy, irritability, tears!!!

No amount of sleep will make me feel rested. My carpal tunnel flares up at night.

Why are divides between BOH and FOH common/maintained?

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FOH makes more than BOH if it's a busy night because of tips.

Misunderstanding (or straight-up refusal to see) the other's point of view.

Pay disparity, unbalanced responsibility loads, different length of shifts.

Pay disparity is wild. I left the kitchen after 15 years because I couldn't take it anymore.

I think it really depends on leadership—Chef and the GM set that tone.

Class interests.

Often treated/managed as separate teams as opposed to different parts of the same team.

Wage disparity.

Feel like sometimes it's intentional by owners—division takes focus off poor leadership.

Because a lot of people have never worked both sides so they don't get the struggles!

The perpetuation of the "lazy" FOH trope/not acknowledging emotional labor as labor.

Unfair labour expectations on BOH that get pinned on FOH.

Politics. Keeping BOH & FOH divided against each other keeps eyes off of poor & exploitative & overpaid management & ownership 🙂🙃

Leadership and pay disparities.

The difference of pay.

Management/pay discrepancies/schedules.

Refusal to hire non-women for FOH and non-men for BOH.

Easier to control in more ways than one. Divide and conquer.

Pay difference. Length of shift difference. Management doesn't try to be the bridge.

Last few jobs I had an open kitchen, emphasized teamwork, which helped. Pay differences an issue. Busy nights FOH made more, but quieter nights BOH more. None got enough $.

Wage disparity is ignored or normalized.

Racial disparities.

Gaslighting by owners and managers who benefit from BOH and FOH being opposed.

Gaslighting that keeps FOH AND BOH from organizing for better conditions for everyone.

Many BOH people dream of a career in food. Many FOH folx see it as a stopgap.

Many places I worked we had entirely diff management and scheduling, 2 sep worlds.

What part(s) - if any - of your identity do you hide at work?

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I hide my mental illness as much as possible.

Have hid mental illness due to bosses losing trust in me.

Most of it, find it so hard to be myself at work.

I hide my sexuality from my employees.

Everything, my feelings and I even downplay my gender.

My socialism.

I've had to hide being SA'd by a coworker.

Def a privilege to do so but I refuse to hide parts of myself at work now (1/2)

(2/2) I used to hide parts of my identity and can't bring myself to do it any more.

Can def be detrimental but ultimately gives me more peace of mind.

Political views—democratic socialism/anti-capitalism was received poorly.

Physical health issues.

My Autism. Even when people are kind I can tell that they patronize/look at me diff.

I'm open with the staff I lead about my sexuality & mental illness, but not my bosses.

Being trans! I get misgendered on the daily by guests and coworkers alike.

I was open with my chefs and managers but did not feel safe with coworkers.

ADHD, gay, depression, anxiety, hmm what else.

Softness.

My penchant for dark jokes.

My personal financial situation.

As much as possible. Boundaries, as long as it remains an exploitative system.

My sexuality and being in an open marriage. Personal politics usually.

Chronic illness symptoms.

Only came out as trans when I left the restaurant because saw my friend do it and it went v badly.

Was fired for pointing out ADA accommodations mishandled... so that 🤷🏻‍♂️

All parts.

Substance use issues.

Being queer.

Where in your body do you feel work related stress? And how?

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My head but mostly behind my eyes. Sometimes they get blurry if I'm too stressed.

My jaw.

Tension in my neck and shoulders.

Jaw tension!

Huge knots in my shoulders and tightness in my hips.

Teeth grinding. It wakes my partner. I spit out pieces of tooth some days.

How much do you feel your identity is tied to the restaurant industry? 1-10

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10.

Definitely close to a 10.

It took 2 years & a pandemic to untie my identity from my job (after 7 years working there).

8-10.

But the pandemic has lowered it to a 6-7 cause I can see a future where I don't have to be.

10.

8ish.

10.

8. Mostly b/c of the visceral reaction I get when seeing ppl behave badly in public.

8.

5—I'm getting post grad education so I'm not taken srsly even as a full time cook, "you're leaving us."

10, after pandemic now a 5.

Before the pandemic, 9. Now, 6.

9 unfortunately.

9 pre-pandemic, not sure now. Since I'm going back to further my education.

7.

7.

9.

10.

9.

Used to be a 10. Now it's closer to a 6! Thx to the pandemic I'm better able to focus on community/me.

Waaaaay too much. 10.

Waaaaay too much. 10.

0. I'm done.

A year ago it would be 10. Now it is like a 4.

Like 5 or 6 maybe.

8.

8-10, met partner & most friends, social life revolve(d) around bars/rest.

Used to be ten, had a kid, now a 7.5.

9.

6. I've been pretty good about setting boundaries.

8.

It used to be an 8 but I took a burnout break about 6 years ago and now I try to keep it sep.

And it was closer to a 3/4 before panny but organizing has gotten me back in some.

9.

8.

Prior to leaving, I would've said 7. Now, looking back? 10. Totally lost my sense of self after leaving.

It's been a year since I last worked professionally and it's down to an 8, from a 10.

Pre-panda 9, now... 7ish and trying to get to a 5.

1.

7.

Use to be 8-10, then I had an epiphany decided to no longer tie my identity to how I make $.

4.

Wow. 10. Easily. It's become my life.

Part 2 - How much do you feel your identity is tied to the restaurant industry? 1-10

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6 but in my 20's it was 10+ working on getting to know myself again.

7.

8.

When facing microaggressions at work: How comfortable do you feel standing up for yourself or others? 1-10

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6.

4/5 for myself. I don't want to look like I'm being crazy or sensitive. 8 for others.

10. I talk too much.

8-9. I'm afraid of losing my job, but I will NOT be abused by my job.

I've been nicknamed the "death of fun" because I call people out constantly. Didn't 1/2

Used to but I realized I wouldn't take it towards me or others anymore. 2/2

So... 10! 😬

Myself - 2, others - 8.

11. Sometimes I think I should take a step back and make space for others.

8.

8/9.

6.

6? I'm speaking in retrospect tho, not a current gig.

Depends on the work culture, generally more comfy standing up for others.

8.

10.

10.

2.

6—I'll probably think about it for a while and then say something to staff.

7.

9. Thanks to the help of accounts like yours. Used to be a 3.

Do you find the hospitality industry provides you a healthy work/life balance?

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I used to think yes cause I don't take work home. But I bring trauma, dehydration, hunger, aches, etc.

No. I have to constantly push back and create healthy boundaries for myself.

I have a long answer lol—I think there's a big variation, and you have to have a little self discipline in order to make sure it's balanced. You rarely have to/it's almost impossible to "take your work home" (except for the emotional toll it takes on you), but depending on the restaurant it can be a slippery slope with covering shifts/getting called in/staying past your shift.

My off days actually being "on call" days makes it impossible to mentally clock out.

No—I would have nightmares of busy shifts. Emotional labor of work is also 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

No. It got worse as my career progressed.

It's pretty impossible working 50-60 hours a week.

Absolutely not. I worked a 13hr double with no break and my bosses just shrugged it off.

I have a longer answer as well. I worked a 13hr double and my manager, from the morning shift, told me to hurry up and checked out so she could go home; told me to give away my tables or do what I had to do to switch on to the next shift. Didn't offer to give me time to eat, didn't offer to let me sit down for 5 minutes. Nothing. Then later on they allowed the bartender to take a break 4 hrs into her shift, she got to sit down, eat and take a smoke break, while I was told to hurry up and get on with work. Best part is, it doesn't matter if I tell my managers because they won't care. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Hahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Obligations outside of work (school, 2nd job) build a resentful environment.

Is an increase in substance use related to being social at work?

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Yes.

Definitely. The ritual is hanging out post shift with a shift drink. Is not quite as appealing w/o 1.

YES.

Yes.

Knee jerk answer—yes.

Yesss. Been talking about how drinking with coworkers after a shift is a form of trauma bonding.

Yes! For the most part, I've been substance free while on furlough.

YES. FOH wore me down way more than BOH bc people.

Do you use substances to cope at work?

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Not at work, but immediately after work, yes.

Never at work but after... though no substances can fix a shitty work environment!

A coworker and I used to have "mimosa breaks" during busy brunch shifts.

Definitely. Pre-during-post shifts shots, depending on the boss, pre-during-post shift bumps.

Not at work, but I definitely medicate before and/or after (medical marijuana patient 🙏).

Obviously.

Microdosing shrooms before work 😬.

Cocaine was the only way I could get through 18 hour shifts.

Cigarettes. Cigarettes cigarettes cigarettes.

Yes. Before going to work and then immediately after.

How has your body been affected by working in the hospitality industry?

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Injuries, chronic pain, general exhaustion.

The palms of my hands ache sometimes.

I've had worse acne than when I was a teenager: stress, dehydration, disordered eating, etc.

10-12 hour days have not been kind to my joints. 1 year since laid off & I notice the difference.

My feet are literally misshapen from standing in clogs all day.

My hands are dry, cracked and bleeding from dishes, gloves and sanitizer.

Back & shoulder pain, severe weight fluctuations, malnourishment during an open.

Almost having stress fractures from sautéing with heavy pots.

Foot pain that no shoe or insole can help, weight/eating issues.

Chronic back pain and fucked up feet, poor sleeping habits, heightened stress responses.

I have arthritis and chronic back pain.

Weight fluctuations, inconsistent menstruations, and chronic wrist pain.

Chronic body pain, stress dreams, just stress in general lol.

Cuts, burns, back/feet pain, mental/physical abuse, shift sleep.

The rhythm of my appetite is perpetually screwy from not eating ~4pm-11pm on shift.

Bunions & body discomfort, unhealthy binge eating & alcohol habits, poor sleep schedule.

Exhaustion, arthritis, spider veins.

Oooo buddy. So much back pain 😣 but also calves of steel.

Herniated disk (had back surgery), joint pain, alcoholism, severe weight fluctuations.

Plantar fasciitis, carpal tunnel, sciatica, and MIGRAINES!!!!

Permanent damage to my elbows and ulnar nerve from repetitive stress.

How comfortable do you feel telling your managers or guests no? Scale of 1 - 10

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4 :(

4.

Guest 8, manager 3 lol :(

Lately like an 8/9. I'm tired 😫

10.

5.

Barely a 2.

6.

2, it is actively discouraged.

5.

6.

10 but then I get backlash.

6.

1.

I've been told by managers before that I couldn't say the word "no" to a guest, and saying no to a manager meant I wasn't a "team player," and that I could probably expect some sort of covert retribution for doing so (cut hours, less profitable shifts, etc.).

I think it also is that I have to work with/deal with the repercussions of potentially pissing off a manager, whereas with guests it's easier to roll off my back because hopefully they'll be gone in an hour and maybe I'll never have to see them again! Lol

Do u feel u r given enough time/training/investment 2 be in ur position?

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Nope, worked in my previous for 2 years and just left bc of this.

No.

In the past, yes.

Noooooooope! But sink or swim we will!

Almost never.

For once, yes. Further training and plenty of accommodations for my personal life. S/o Garage Bar.

My current job yes & I actually covet the autonomy I have now. But for all jobs prior, heck no.

What makes you feel stressed at work? What makes you want to quit?

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When my boss says "we need to talk" without giving context.

1) Rude/inappropriate guests 2) If I am not supported against them.

My boss being passive aggressive and unprofessional.

Low pay + high expectations.

Inconsistent hours.

Constant criticism, inconsistent info/directions, not having enough people or resources for a task.

Deescalation policies that require police involvement.

Passive aggressive mgmt. Just tell me what you want.

Work.

Lack of leadership from management.

Shitty guests!!!

They don't manage resos properly and my entire section gets flat sat each turn.

When easy tasks are made harder by bad communication and a lack of simple systems.

Reactive, passive aggressive, condescending, and incompetent management.

When the laziest and meanest employees are promoted to management.

Understaffing or labor costs.

Lack of training or listening to ideas from employees who can handle their job well.

Ego.

Bad management.

Managers/owners sleeping with staff.

What's the most challenging part of your job that people wouldn't expect?

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Talking to people being mistreated at work but not being able to help because of labor laws.

The emotional labor, especially when my pay depends on the whims of guests.

The emotional labor involved in being the problem solver for everyone (guests/coworkers).

Getting into character when dealing with challenges in our personal lives.

Not being able to socialize with loved ones as easily, not knowing how much I'll make on a given day.

Multitask.

Being able to use the restroom.

How difficult it is to control my tone of voice reminding ppl about something for the 12th time.

What is it like to be a hospitality professional and a mother?

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Girl hahahahaha. It's isolating.

Exhausting, double standards for time off and promotion.

Whiplash, mom to worker, early cuts, late schedules, clopens.

Double work, double standards, lack of real opportunities, exhausting & nerve wrecking.

Do you think the hospitality work environment is welcoming for mothers? What is missing?

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Yes, at first... Then you become disposable right quick.

Not even a little bit.

Yes, until our family becomes an "inconvenience" due to illness, babysitter issue, etc.

As a whole, no. Perhaps 1% of places but it's a very rare find.

When they need to schedule someone, sure.

Initially, for the food.

I've seen establishments prey on them for PT and cuts because "they've got kids."

I don't think so but I wonder what my YT cis male coworkers would say?

No. Even part time is a struggle.

With enough hard boundaries and a million side hobbies, it CAN be.

You make of it what you want to make of it; a lot of problems come from miscommunication.

What kind of emotional support do you wish was available in your workplace?

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Someone trained in peer support.

Grief support, stress reduction & management.

It's so hard to think of an answer because I've never really had any @ work!

Manager agreeing not to schedule me during my weekly therapy.

What type of training would be helpful for managers to receive before directing a team?

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Conflict resolution and sensitivity, really all the goddamn training.

From a former GM: extensive training on union bargaining contracts, there are some of us that want to make it better but petty, complacent, lazy workers knew how to work the system.

Deescalation, conflict resolution.

How to be a manager.

Leadership skills, or people skills.

How to receive feedback and not take it as a threat to their power.

Soft skills and mentoring. Every manager I had in restaurants made me feel disposable.

Harassment/conflict, wage and scheduling laws, heat & safety.

Deescalation.

How to advocate and empower the most marginalized members of staff, how to build trust + communication.

Spanish.

Professional boundaries and ethics tbh.

De-escalation training, first aid training, financial training and real training in all roles they oversee.

De-escalation for starters.

Communication skills/conflict resolution.

Conflict resolution with DEI lens!

DEI.

Relationship building and how to give feedback in a way that can create mentorship rather than breaking people down.

Whoever said Spanish, I agree! I wish my Spanish was better!

Maintaining employee engagement and avoidance of toxic positivity.

How to be a manager. Take feedback from workers. LISTEN!

Spanish.

Removing "aggressive employees/seniority" act as managers environment/privilege.

How to interact with neurodivergent people.

Outside of more pay, what is 1 thing your employer could do to improve?

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Give breaks, add benefits.

Transparency! More organized scheduling that makes sense.

Proper management training. Managers should be trained on empathy and staff diversity.

Promote me.

Get in the trenches! Clear, dishes, take the table that made me cry. 😭

Less hours.

Equity!

PTO.

Include employees in decision making, make them part of the creative process, listen to them.

Benefits that include MENTAL HEALTH COVERAGE!

Invest in mental education/training, acknowledge past mistakes.

Actually listen to staff!

The business owner is always saying he wants to "be the best employer." Well then listen to us!

Consider a worker-owned structure.

Stop giving me other people's jobs to do.

If you were to mentor someone new to hospitality, what's the first lesson you'd share?

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Set and hold boundaries. Management will step on your face if you let them.

Get to know your coworkers & make a genuine effort.

Find ways that work for you to keep work at work, and protect your peace at home.

When things seem wonky, be sure to document them in some way and then speak up.

Leave the bullshit at the door. Don't take it home with you. Put boundaries up right away.

Do the barest minimum you can get away with, and don't take alcohol offers at your workplace.

Always have something outside of work to look forward to, don't make work your identity.

Above all, hold yourself accountable for your mistakes. And mind your business.

Remember that everyone is selfish and lazy (guests/coworkers)—you don't have to be.

Everything is simple tasks so don't let anything upset you.

Research first. Stay far away from Warlord and Trevor Fleming.

Not everyone understands how much effort you put in so don't always expect to be praised.

Don't drink at work.

Boundaries. If you don't set them, nobody else will.

Alcohol is not a form of payment.

Do not forget the way people make you feel, document and trust your gut.

Ask as early as possible how a new job handles raises and act accordingly. If a job does cost-of-living raises only, do not do extra work or work harder than your pay grade. If raises are performance based, ask how frequently you will be evaluated (can be 3mo, 6mo, or yearly). Be ready to have to remind your manager to evaluate you and you will likely have to ask for a raise. Come in at a high number and be ready to negotiate. Restaurants will rarely give raises without being asked, so you have to advocate for yourself.